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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 07:10 am
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My money is on Hillary. What's your prediction?

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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 01:30 pm
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I seriously don't know who will be the next President. 

But I know, with no doubt in my heart, I am pulling for and cheering on Hillary.  I have about 100 reasons for doing so, which I will keep to myself.  :P

If I am wrong, which happens at times with my *predictions*..... I will just continue on -- as usual -- :D .   My life, and the way I live it,  seems to be effected by 1% as to who is President at the time.



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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 04:42 pm
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I think Hilary will win too.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 06:24 pm
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Richard wrote: I think Hilary will win too.

Yes, I think she will win as democratic candidate.

John McCain likely will have winning status as the republican candidate; then, I think Arnold Schwartzenegger will be McCain's running mate;

John McCain wins the 2008 elections but something like Florida '2000 will occur again, so Schwartzenegger becomes vice-president, and a lot of problems in politics will rise.

Hillary will not accept this election outcome until the USA splits in 2 parts;

McCain gets ill in 2009, then Arnie Schwartzenegger will be the official president.

this will fit in the planned scenario of a second Nazi-dictator in history coming from Austria.

= TOTAL RECALL (of 2nd coming).



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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 08:22 pm
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Octahedron wrote: McCain gets ill in 2009, then Arnie Schwartzenegger will be the official president.

this will fit in the planned scenario of a second Nazi-dictator in history coming from Austria.

= TOTAL RECALL (of 2nd coming).

Is he Illuminatus? I think this will only happen IF the Fourth Reich under Antartica thwarts the plans of the Draco. But from what I've read, this won't happen because on many levels, they work together.

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 Posted: Wed Feb 6th, 2008 10:17 pm
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Most of the Internet alternative news sources I have heard or read predicted Hillary long ago.  I heard Alex Jones say she was chosen by the Bilderburgers as indicated by her being honored with the position of greeter at the 2006 conference.  Those who study the ritual symbolism say the Illluminati want to usher in the new world odor with a woman (symbolizing the goddess) as president.  Many sources, including Stewart, have long predicted that the puppet show would be geared to get the public to accept a Clinton/Obama run for the Democrats.  They have also predicted that disgust with Bush had made a Republican win a lost cause.

Looking at Ron Paul's numbers, I've been leaning towards the ABH (anybody but Hillary) camp but a McCain/Schwartzenegger presidency sounds pretty ominous too. 

Is he Illuminatus? I think this will only happen IF the Fourth Reich under Antartica thwarts the plans of the Draco. But from what I've read, this won't happen because on many levels, they work together.


Does a candidate even make it to the final election if he/she is not bloodline?  My money says no.  Aren't the 4th Reich Nazis progeny and servants of the Draco?

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spiritvoyager wrote: Looking at Ron Paul's numbers, I've been leaning towards the ABH (anybody but Hillary) camp but a McCain/Schwartzenegger presidency sounds pretty ominous too. 

Is he Illuminatus? I think this will only happen IF the Fourth Reich under Antartica thwarts the plans of the Draco. But from what I've read, this won't happen because on many levels, they work together.


Does a candidate even make it to the final election if he/she is not bloodline?  My money says no.  Aren't the 4th Reich Nazis progeny and servants of the Draco?


I feel sorry for Ron Paul. They totally sabotaged his chances with that planted racist article.

As for Arnold, this is why I think Hillary will get it. Many have said she is Illuminatus(and a shapeshifter!), so I definitely think she will get the election.

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 Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2008 02:34 am
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Can someone answer this?

Doesn't a presidential or vp candidate have to be American born ? I didn't think Arnold was eligible to run.

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I feel sorry for Ron Paul. They totally sabotaged his chances with that planted racist article.

Yes, the race card is almost always used by racists.  If the worst dirt that could be had on Ron Paul was some racist articles written under his name that he has distanced himself from for decades, then he is squeaky clean compared to the rest of the candidates.

If people had the consciousness and discernment to see beyond the surface of people and events, the ages old divide and conquer tactics wouldn't work and we could elect someone like Ron Paul who, like none of the other candidates I am aware of, has a long track record to support his positions.  I have been aware of him for at least 10 years in his capacity as a member of the House Banking Committee.  He contributed to the liner notes of the book, The Creature from Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin, more than 10 years ago.  It is neither his fault nor his tragedy that enough Americans do not have the consciousness to see beyond the pablum of lies routinely dished out by the media (or stop high tech vote fraud).

How many people look more to what the candidates have done than to their words?  We all know that politicians pay speechwriters and strategists to put those words in their mouths.  For me, this unfortunate situation is just confirms the importance of each individual doing his/her inner work and learning to teach by example. 

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Can someone answer this?

Doesn't a presidential or vp candidate have to be American born ? I didn't think Arnold was eligible to run.


Yes.  Good Point Blue Moon.  I looked it up.

Section 1 of Article II of the Constitution contains the clause:


No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


Additionally, the 12th Amendment to the Constitution states that: "[N]o person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen


An issue exists as to whether McCain meets these requirements:


Children born outside the United States to American parents
Three major candidates have sought the Presidency who were born outside the United States: Barry Goldwater (ran in 1964) was born in Arizona while it was still a U.S. territory, George Romney (ran in 1968) was born in Mexico to U.S. parents, and John McCain (ran in 2000 and runs in 2008) was born in the Panama Canal Zone to U.S. parents. Barry Goldwater's case among these three is unique in that although Arizona was not a state, it was a fully incorporated territory of the United States, making it debatable whether or not he was born "outside" the United States. The Panama Canal Zone was under United States sovereignty between 1903 and 1979.[7] None of these candidates was elected, so it has never been fully addressed whether children born to Americans overseas are "natural-born citizens" and thus eligible for the Presidency. However, McCain is currently seeking the 2008 Republican nomination for President.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural-born_citizen 

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 Posted: Thu Feb 7th, 2008 04:32 am
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Numerologist Skot Jonz Picks the Next President

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Published: February 6, 2008
 
Aaron FarmerOn Tuesday, Feb. 5, millions of Californians strode to the polls, casting their votes for the candidate whose message and platform encapsulated their own vision of a better tomorrow.

San Franciscan Skot Jonz has come up with a better way to pick a commander-in-chief. He has been distributing his 30-page pamphlet around city cafes and nail salons to spread the word — the word of numbers. Jonz is a numerologist; his pamphlet is titled "Picking a President by the Numbers."

"Of course I consider a candidate's platform and ideology valuable," Jonz told me. "But, as we all know, that is subject to change based on the whim of the candidates and who they may be wooing at the moment. The numerology cannot be changed, and I consider it as another source of information to make an informed decision."

Why, Jonz gripes in his pamphlet, does the media report poll numbers, fund-raising numbers, and delegate numbers, but not the really important numbers? You know, like the fact that Ron Paul's birth day and month (8/20/1935) add up to 28, 2 + 8 = 10, and 1 + 0 = 1, and 1 indicates strong leadership skills? Why doesn't Wolf Blitzer talk about that on The Situation Room?

Poring over 30 pages of hard-core numerology theory is not as fun or easy as reading a Harry Potter book, and, to paraphrase a Woody Allen quip, after 20 minutes a substance resembling guacamole began to trickle out of my ears. But here, in a nutshell, is Jonz' argument.

Double numbers (11, 22, etc.) are considered "master numbers" and are of special significance. We will elect our 44th president this November; numerologists believe that number corresponds with a "Master Liberator" who will solve the world's problems. Number 33, incidentally, corresponded with a "Master Healer" who was compassionate and loving in his service of mankind. Harry S Truman was our 33rd president, so the good folks in Hiroshima and Nagasaki might be somewhat taken aback.

In any event, by assigning numerical values to letters (A=1, B=2), you can tabulate the value of a name. Different values supposedly demonstrate different characteristics. Barack Obama's tabulation indicates "karmic lessons around faith," while John McCain's points to "karmic lessons around cooperation and peace."

When I asked for a prediction in the California primary, Jonz politely declined — that would be crazy! It's not as though he's a psychic.

Well, Alex Goldenberg is. When I dialed Psychic Horizons on Valencia a week before the primary, he answered on the first ring and gleefully gave me his predictions.

On the Democratic side, Goldenberg conjured up a mental image of Stanford — and, since Chelsea Clinton matriculated there, that meant Hillary Clinton would win California.

On the Republican side, he envisioned a tree. For some reason, Goldenberg felt that indicated a John McCain victory.

All of you reading this now will know whether our psychic was right. If it turns out he was, well, he may have just been consulting the numbers — the polling numbers, that is.

http://www.sfweekly.com/2008-02-06/news/vote-by-numbers/

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Arnold Schwartzenegger  = Arn-Old Schwartzen-Egger = Old Arian Black Egg-er

Egger = Egg-shape or Sun

Schwartz (German) = Black

Thus:

Arnold Schwartzenegger stands for:

Old Arian coming from the Black Sun

=

2nd coming according the Nazi-philosophy of the Thule Society.

=

2nd Hitler

 

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My money is also on Hilary, we are currently moving into more female energy, and Hilary is a Scorpio sun, mercury and Venus, Leo in mars, Saturn and Pluto, Sagittarius in Jupiter with a Pisces moon. Wow what a combination, she has all the energy for the job, the only thing that might get in her way is her Taurus node. There is no way she has forgiven bill for his fiasco and she will get her revenge if she gets the top seat!

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Octahedron wrote: Arnold Schwartzenegger  = Arn-Old Schwartzen-Egger = Old Arian Black Egg-er

Egger = Egg-shape or Sun

Schwartz (German) = Black

Thus:

Arnold Schwartzenegger stands for:

Old Arian coming from the Black Sun

=

2nd coming according the Nazi-philosophy of the Thule Society.

=

2nd Hitler

 

This is only possible if the Fourth Reich is successful in overthrowing the Illuminati, which I highly doubt will happen.

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Remind:

The real name of Adolph Hitler was:

Adolph Schicklgruber

compare this with the words:

Arnold Schwartzenegger

and you can recognize some similarity in the tone of both names.

(both persons came from Austria and are Illuminati)



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I want to state and clarify that I no longer have confidence or a good feeling about Ron Paul as a presidential candidate.  This has been growing for sometime now and came to a conclusion a few weeks ago.It's not based on anything he said or did but things that have happened in the dance with other campaigns. 

I still believe the action of voting is important even if it means writing in your  candidate.

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