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 Posted: Wed Jun 25th, 2008 05:41 pm
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Whether Steve Quayle is on the money or not there is lots of high level, nerve wracking stuff going on.  Honestly, my mind is too screwed up right now from being zapped the other night to process this report in a calm manner but I am posting it here for the sake of it.  I know where I was on Friday, the 20th, at 4:15 PM EST and I am trying to recall how I was feeling at that time and into the evening.

http://www.stevequayle.com/News.alert/08_Nukes/080624.US-Russia.war.html

An anonymous someone wrote to the publisher of Rumor Mill News a while back that if Iran is attacked and China and Russia do not get involved it is all for show.  If those two countries do get involved, it is for real.  I don't know if I could ever find that link.

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 Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 03:39 am
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Russia's foreign minister warns against use of force on Iran

The Associated Press
Friday, June 20, 2008

MOSCOW: Russia's foreign minister on Friday warned against the use of force on Iran, saying there is no proof it is trying to build nuclear weapons.

Sergey Lavrov said Iran should be engaged in dialogue and encouraged to cooperate with the U.N. nuclear monitoring agency.

Lavrov made the statement when asked to comment on an Israeli Cabinet member's statement earlier this month that Israel could attack Iran if it does not halt its nuclear program.

"I hope the actual actions would be based on international law," Lavrov said. "And international law clearly protects Iran's and anyone else's territorial integrity."

Israel's military refused to confirm or deny a report Friday that its warplanes staged a major rehearsal this month for a possible attack on Iran.

The New York Times report quoted U.S. officials as saying more than 100 Israeli F-16s and F-15s staged the maneuver over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece in the first week of June. It said the aircraft flew more than 900 miles (1,450 kilometers), roughly the distance from Israel to Iran's Natanz nuclear enrichment facility, and that the exercise included refueling tankers and helicopters capable of rescuing downed pilots.

Lavrov said Russia had asked both the United States and Israel to provide factual information to back their claims that Iran was working to build atomic weapons. "So far we have seen none, and the same conclusion was made by the International Atomic Energy Agency," he said.

"It's absolutely not right to speak matter-of-factly that Iran continues building nuclear weapons," Lavrov added.

Iran insists its enrichment program is meant only to generate electricity. But because of its past clandestine activities, including some that could have applications for weapons research, the international community is concerned that Tehran wants to enrich uranium to a purity suitable for use in atomic bombs.

The IAEA suggested in a report to the U.N. Security Council last month that Iran was stonewalling investigators and possibly withholding information crucial to determining whether it conducted research on nuclear weapons.

Lavrov insisted that Iran must be encouraged to continue its cooperation with the U.N. monitoring agency.

"As long as the IAEA reports to us progress in its relations with Iran, as long as Iran closes the issues which were of concern to the IAEA and this process continues, we should avoid any steps which could undermine this very important process," he said, speaking in English.

Russia has maintained close ties with Iran and is building its first nuclear power plant in the southern port of Bushehr, which is expected to go on line later this year. It has backed limited U.N. sanctions aimed at forcing Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment program, but has opposed the U.S. push for harsher measures.

"The key to resolving the Iranian issue is involvement," Lavrov said. "We must involve Iran, engage Iran in resolving the Iranian nuclear program, ... but also engage Iran in constructive, respectful, serious dialogue on Iraq and Afghanistan, on the Middle East in general."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/20/news/Russia-Iran.php

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 Posted: Mon Jun 30th, 2008 07:30 am
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Richard wrote: Russia's foreign minister warns against use of force on Iran

The Associated Press
Friday, June 20, 2008

MOSCOW: Russia's foreign minister on Friday warned against the use of force on Iran, saying there is no proof it is trying to build nuclear weapons.

Sergey Lavrov said Iran should be engaged in dialogue and encouraged to cooperate with the U.N. nuclear monitoring agency.

Lavrov made the statement when asked to comment on an Israeli Cabinet member's statement earlier this month that Israel could attack Iran if it does not halt its nuclear program.

"I hope the actual actions would be based on international law," Lavrov said. "And international law clearly protects Iran's and anyone else's territorial integrity."

Israel's military refused to confirm or deny a report Friday that its warplanes staged a major rehearsal this month for a possible attack on Iran.

The New York Times report quoted U.S. officials as saying more than 100 Israeli F-16s and F-15s staged the maneuver over the eastern Mediterranean and Greece in the first week of June. It said the aircraft flew more than 900 miles (1,450 kilometers), roughly the distance from Israel to Iran's Natanz nuclear enrichment facility, and that the exercise included refueling tankers and helicopters capable of rescuing downed pilots.

Lavrov said Russia had asked both the United States and Israel to provide factual information to back their claims that Iran was working to build atomic weapons. "So far we have seen none, and the same conclusion was made by the International Atomic Energy Agency," he said.

"It's absolutely not right to speak matter-of-factly that Iran continues building nuclear weapons," Lavrov added.

Iran insists its enrichment program is meant only to generate electricity. But because of its past clandestine activities, including some that could have applications for weapons research, the international community is concerned that Tehran wants to enrich uranium to a purity suitable for use in atomic bombs.

The IAEA suggested in a report to the U.N. Security Council last month that Iran was stonewalling investigators and possibly withholding information crucial to determining whether it conducted research on nuclear weapons.

Lavrov insisted that Iran must be encouraged to continue its cooperation with the U.N. monitoring agency.

"As long as the IAEA reports to us progress in its relations with Iran, as long as Iran closes the issues which were of concern to the IAEA and this process continues, we should avoid any steps which could undermine this very important process," he said, speaking in English.

Russia has maintained close ties with Iran and is building its first nuclear power plant in the southern port of Bushehr, which is expected to go on line later this year. It has backed limited U.N. sanctions aimed at forcing Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment program, but has opposed the U.S. push for harsher measures.

"The key to resolving the Iranian issue is involvement," Lavrov said. "We must involve Iran, engage Iran in resolving the Iranian nuclear program, ... but also engage Iran in constructive, respectful, serious dialogue on Iraq and Afghanistan, on the Middle East in general."

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/06/20/news/Russia-Iran.php


Any kind of nuclear exchange between America and Russia, would simply result in Russia and the Romanov Illuminists completely destroying the United States of America. The reason that would happen is that Russia has well over 500,000 known "nuclear shelters" that can each house well over 30 people. Most of the "nuclear shelters" are in the large towns and cities of Russia.

Russia also has very advanced D1 Bases and D2 Bases, and during the Cold War, Russia never, ever disarmed, only dismantling very old ICBM weapons, whilst dicreetly building many thousands of newer ones, which the MSM never was really aware of and still isn't to this day. For Russia to defend Iran, if that country is attack by America and Israel, means they also intend to completely prevent the kind of NWO and NWR the other Illuminists want.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 05:59 pm
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Steve Quayle - another one.

He, like Benjamin Fulford, Alex Jones, and Alan Watt, are at best entertainers and should be taken as so.

Don't you guys get tired of hearing the same BS from the same people over and over?????

I remember back when I used to listen to Art Bell and actually thought a meteor was going to crash in to the earth and kill us all and there's nothing you can do about - DOOOOOM!

Some 12 years later I'm still here and the same jerks are out selling their bullsh*t.

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 Posted: Sun Jul 13th, 2008 06:02 pm
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Steve Quayle is selling something or is looking for his ego to get stroked. He's an idiot at best and shouldn't be taken seriously. I don't trust the major news sources but with people like Steve Quayle out there it makes finding reliable information more difficult.

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:37 am
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Well, three4, what is your view of life on planet Earth?  Who do you think is disseminating accurate information these days?

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:40 am
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Three4, it may have been a blessing and not gloom and doom at all if that asteroid you heard about on Art Bell's show 12 years ago had really hit the earth.  I'm not being sarcastic and I'm not kidding.  :)

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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:51 am
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Logically, there are only a few ways information about anything at a higher level can get to a lower level accurately, and that kinda limits most of the population actually knowing what's going on.

Whistleblowers, which could be deliberately programmed or otherwise liars, and could give false info or false mixed with real.  If they give real, how can WE verify it? 

Personal knowledge from knowing someone in a high position, and that usually means being in the club, and to get in the club you usually have to be like them so what are the chances you're gonna share?

Spying.  I'd not say this is accurate to say the least, though you could gain info this way, still.. how to verify?

Psychic spying.  Has it's flaws, may or may not be blockable and or influencable by the source you're spying on, so you can't verify anyways. 

Back to square one.. we never have, don't, and aren't going to ever really know what has really gone on, is going on, or might go on. 

So what can we do?  Develop intuition and live by making choices that seem the best we can make at any given moment, while intending to make some progress toward whatever goal(s) we have.

That's my $0.02

And, yes, I totally sensed BS on my BS meter when I saw the video of Fulford interviewing Rockefeller.  Fulford is so full of it.. if the asians wanted to assassinate anyone they wouldn't give them time.. they would have already done it and just gotten on with the takeover with Russia's help.



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 Posted: Mon Jul 14th, 2008 02:58 am
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Your comment was worth more than $0.02, Proph.  There were many good points to keep in mind.

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