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| Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 08:43 pm |
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Richard Seeker 
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I don’t want to offend anyone but Stewart’s issue with Peter Moon is the Scientology info. Then his issue with Preston is that he feels Preston has a tendency to exaggerate things.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 09:43 pm |
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I totally agree with Stewart Swerdlow concerning Scientology. It is a sad, powerful and corrupt Mind Control Cult that is only after more and more Mind Control Victims and peoples money. Peter Moon is a journalist and not a scientist and therefore has his Mind open to finding new and amazing ideas all the time. Scientology appeals to him in that way. That is all. Take care.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 11:19 pm |
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Iam_That_Iam Advanced Member 
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Octahedron wrote: Iam_That_Iam wrote:....---- Well, Stewart said:... ''Let me state publicly that I no longer have any contact or interface with any of those former Montauk associates. I have only two books published by Sky Books and that relationship is strictly business. All my subsequent books are via Expansions Publishing Company, Inc. Plus, I no longer wish to be associated with that group of people. Stewart'' http://www.expansions.com/forum/bbBoard.cgi?a=viewthread;fid=12;gtid=10981;gpid=10990#gpid10990
____________________ My awareness is NOW expanding exponentially, efficiently and effectively. "I will not Fear. Fear is the mind killer. I will face my Fear and let it pass through me [, and up to my Oversoul]." --- quote made by leto, taken from the Children |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 13th, 2005 11:29 pm |
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Richard Seeker
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I forgot to mention that Stewart also feels that the Ong’s Hat material published by Moon is BS.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 07:08 am |
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Hi there Hyperspace. Yes Stewart Swerdlow does believe that The Ongs Hat book by Joseph Matheny with Peter Moon is BS. However Stewart Swerdlow has said many times on Expansions that the Ongs Hat scenario was real and it did happen. Take care.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 06:27 pm |
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Kris Kringle Guest
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Octahedron wrote: Kris Kringle wrote:....... But it annoyed me that this was a kind of 'Preston did it all' kind of book [when I remember it righ]. He seemed to have done everything in the music industry and no one else had the capability to do so. This can't be true. If there's a sequel to it, he probably claims being Elvis. ;-) I have to say after some re-reading, I still stand by my original assessment. The book still annoys me. He does a lot of bragging. Here are some statements (in pale orange ;-) ): "In this way, I became the technical czar of Bell sound (...). These included the Rolling Stones, Beatles, Beach Boys, BeeGees, the Mamas and the Papas, Jim Morrison and too many more to mention" This is Preston in 'I did it all' -mode. And I didn't cite the Star Wars or Buddha stuff. "When I entered the music field in the early 1960's, there were no great recording engineers at that time." I doubt that. Excellent recordings exist for a long time now. As if there was only one recording engineer at that time who could do the recordings. "I met Jim Morrison and the Doors about three days before the session where they recorded "Light my Fire." We met at a diner in Manhattan and struck up an immediate friendship and became pretty good friends." Reminds me of Wayne's World. "As I have said elsewhere in this book, I never wanted groupie attention." I don't believe any male who says that. :rolleyes: There are other things which are confused in the book, which show that it is not the full truth in there. But I don't want to go into that. The above should be sufficient.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 08:26 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member 
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Kris Kringle wrote:
Octahedron: (Difficulties with quoting): Kris, thanks for giving more attention tot his book. I don't agree with you, to me this list has to be checked out first, instead of being annoyed by this; but your thoughts are very important for me.
Octahedron: the timing is correct, the early 60's was the beginning of better sound techniques. Octahedron: I also have my disbeliefs here, but again, this has to be checked out, I don't follow first feelings of doubt or disbelief. . Last year, exactly 33 years after the death of Morrison, the Doors would have had a big public concert (without Morrison of course) in the area I live (in the Netherlands) which was forbidden by Dutch government at the last moment, which I think is an item in the Rothschild-Windsor conflict. The role of Jim Morrison would be played by another mind-controlled look-alike of Jim Morrison. "As I have said elsewhere in this book, I never wanted groupie attention." Octahedron: Sorry, I don't see any proof, only disbelievings, although you have good reasons to disbelief. I keep everything open until I have the proofs and facts to make a conclusion about truth or lies. Best Regards, Octahedron Last edited on Fri Oct 14th, 2005 08:39 pm by Octahedron ____________________ God-Man-Nature = Balancing will power |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 08:44 pm |
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Violet Senior Member
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Iam_That_Iam wrote:
I know that at one point there was a Yahoo! group devoted to Al Bielek and his experiences. (Unfortunately, I can't seem to find it any more so it may no longer exist.) I attempted to subscribe twice without success. The moderator was required to approve memberships. I included a note explaining that I'd read the Montauk Project books, and also that I'd met Stewart and Janet Swerdlow on a couple of occasions. I had assumed this would at least open the door to talking with these folks. But instead they twice refused my membership without comment. It seemed a little rude if you ask me, given that I'd shown interest and had taken the time to introduce myself. My intuition told me that they weren't comfortable with Stewart and Janet for some reason and this was the reason for the refusal. I don't 'take sides'--although I will note that Stewart and Janet seem far more open these days that these other folks--but I was left with the STRONG impression that these Montauk survivors are not on the best of terms with each other these days.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 14th, 2005 09:02 pm |
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bhornsby Guest
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There's a lot of info out there but you really have to kick around to find it and, even then, be careful because it's hard to separate the rumour and conjecture. Last edited on Fri Oct 14th, 2005 09:03 pm by |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 15th, 2005 10:22 am |
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Kris Kringle Guest
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Octahedron, I value your opinion very much, I just wanted to give my view. I have often been wrong and often been right in my life. At this stage I think this is a book put out just to make some money with the Montauk label, with some right and some wrong info.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 12:35 am |
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William Moderator 
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Ok, But should i read the book??? Love music, Will it hold my attention or should i not waste my time? It all sounds interesting. thanks.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 04:26 am |
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Iam_That_Iam Advanced Member
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Music is one of my favorite subject... I have read that book. I think you will enjoy it...:thumbsup: Last edited on Sun Oct 16th, 2005 04:27 am by Iam_That_Iam ____________________ My awareness is NOW expanding exponentially, efficiently and effectively. "I will not Fear. Fear is the mind killer. I will face my Fear and let it pass through me [, and up to my Oversoul]." --- quote made by leto, taken from the Children |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 16th, 2005 07:17 am |
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William you should go ahead and buy The Music Of Time as alot of the information is correct whereas there is some sensationalism in it but again the use of 'rational discernment' is needed to slft and filter out all disinformation and hype from this amazing and very readable Montauk Series book.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 17th, 2005 08:20 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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Kris Kringle wrote: Octahedron, I value your opinion very much, I just wanted to give my view. I have often been wrong and often been right in my life. At this stage I think this is a book put out just to make some money with the Montauk label, with some right and some wrong info. Yes, but then, it is a very strange way to make money. I mean this book is written/published in 2000; and the last book of both Moon & Nichols before this book in the Montauk series is "Encounter in the Pleiades" written/published in 1996. So there is a gap of 4 years. If they only wanted to make money, Moon would have get Preston making more fantasies if so. So, I think there is much more going on than making money. My disappointment about "Music in Time" is the John Ford story which has nothing to do with the Music. It would better have been this part was made in another book, while the "music part" needs much more explanations and technical reviews. But the core of Preston's stories is brilliant for me.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19th, 2005 07:04 am |
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Kris Kringle Guest
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Octahedron wrote:
Not a strange way to make money. You'll have to wait some time to see if there is a demand for another book. It is the right time for such a book to spread among the people who are interested in the thing and want another sequel. Just read the newest Montauk book, the "Montauk book of the Dead", to see where it is going. Besides, the Music of Time had not so much to do with Montauk. For Moon it was just another gap of 3 years, as he did the Black Sun book in 97.
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19th, 2005 08:29 am |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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Kris Kringle wrote:
Yes, You're right with these arguments. And indeed the latest book about "the Dead" of Moon is completely unlogical for me. Moon would better point his attention to the efforts of Stewart Swerdlow (Like the Blue Blood True Blood subjects). Regards, Octahedron
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| Posted: Wed Oct 19th, 2005 07:40 pm |
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bhornsby Guest
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Has anyone actually read this "Book of the Dead"? - B
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| Posted: Thu Oct 20th, 2005 07:35 am |
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Kris Kringle Guest
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bhornsby wrote: Has anyone actually read this "Book of the Dead"? I am trying to read it at the moment. It is difficult, because it seems to be only and exclusively about L., Ron , Hubbard , Sea Org, Scientology and Dianetics and Moon's experiences and speculations with that. While I am open to ideas of Scientology (because I know where some of the stuff came from and can sort out some of the lies), this book looks like Peter Moon is still into this stuff, and never got really rid of it and never achieved a freer perspective on it (like in the L.Kin-books, for example). That is sad and painful to read, because he is so pro Hubbard. I think this is the reason some no longer want to be affiliated with Sky Books. You could too easily be associated with Scientology. When I have finished the book, I put a short summary on this thread. Last edited on Thu Oct 20th, 2005 07:35 am by |
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2005 07:43 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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If the Rolling Stones and esp. Mick Jagger are concerned in this topic, their song "Painted Black" gives me the feeling Preston Nichols and Peter Moon really have written some truth about the Music Industry & Montauk/Morocco connection here with this book. I can not explain why; it's only a feeling I have.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 28th, 2005 09:06 pm |
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I totally agree with you on this point Octahedron. I also feel Preston Nichols has not been totally forthcoming in alot of issues he mentions in The Music of Time.
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