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 Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 10:43 am
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Am European ritual date today, St. Nikolaus. The famous figure who was transformed into Santa in the anglo saxon part of western non-sanity-civilization:

http://www.hoover.archives.gov/exhibits/legends/santa/


Especially where I am from, St. Nik is accompanied by a strange figure which is intended to scare young children:

http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/nikohelp.htm


On the evening of Dec. 6th the young males usually wear masks out
of fur and horns to scare and beat people on the streets:


http://www.serve.com/shea/germusa/klausen.htm

Here's an excerpt:

"Werner Mezger explains the history and legends surrounding St. Nikolaus, Bishop of Myra. The Saint is usually depicted with three golden apples. Legend has it that he gave gold to poor young girls as a dowry"


Here's a picture of the people who run around in the streets during the night:

http://www.sonthofen.de/kultur/img/KLAUSEN2.jpg


If I am programmed, this has pretty much to do with my programming. (Because of this I put it into this forum as I don't want it in the open forum. I may add to this thread and link to interesting aspects of this story.)

Golden apple:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_apple

Best,

Kris

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 Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 03:15 pm
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Hello KK,

Yes, it's a Dutch satanic invention, Sint Nicolaas & Zwarte Piet (Black Piet) since the 1500's

the ritual night is 5th of december.

Bisschop St. Nicolaas lives in Spain.

It's a satanic cult.

Dutch children are grew up with the idea, if they are not brave,  they will be abducted by Black Piet (who playes the role of the alien abductor) and taken to Spain to be used in rituals.

For a picture:



 



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 Posted: Tue Dec 6th, 2005 03:28 pm
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Cool, thanks for the info. Spooky picture. If you have more and have time, please post more. For me there are lots of connections in these themes, personally.Too bad I cannot mention it all.

Here is an interesting article about Nikolaus of Myra (270-345/352)

http://www.wilsonsalmanac.com/book/dec6.html

"The destruction of several pagan temples is also attributed to him, among them one temple of Artemis (also known as Diana). Because the celebration of Diana's birth is on December 6, some authors have speculated that this date was deliberately chosen for Nicholas's feast day to overshadow or replace the pagan celebrations."

Interesting is this light/darkness theme, male/female, santa/satan, claus/lucas.

So he is connected to Diana/Artemis (Dec. 6th) and he even took part in the infamous
Council of Nicaea.

Funny would also to speculate about the connection to Coca Cola, Northpole, the polar bears and Michaels recent thread. Just as a side note.

I am more intereted in the South Pole though. But as above , so below. :)

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Kris Kringle wrote:
I am more intereted in the South Pole though. But as above , so below. :)

:shok:  Oh, I remember my forgotten dream last friday !! thank you for that.

It was all about Antartica and a war between Japan and the rest of the world.



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I have never been to Europe in my life, but I wonder why I may have an unconscious fear of the "Black Piet" ?  It's been bothering me quite a while now...  To me, the "Black Piet" has piercing white shiny eyes.

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SilverInfinity wrote: ...  To me, the "Black Piet" has piercing white shiny eyes.

Everything about Sint/Saint Nicolaas (also an English version):

http://www-astro.physics.ox.ac.uk/~erik/sint/sint.html

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I never believed in Santa.  My parents did not celebrate anything (deprived childhood?)  Perhaps I just have an unconscious fear for black figures.

It's interesting how the good kids were rewarded and bad kids punished.  For those who do not know, there are links to English sites at the bottom.

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Satanic Programming meets Superhero Programming:

Anybody who accidentally watched Smallville last thursday saw an interesting episode of Clark Kent (Superman) 'playing' Santa for children (putting gifts under a christmas tree) and meeting the real Santa Claus on a roof of a building. In turn, after Santa found out that Clark is one of the good guys, he helped him and his friend Chloe in distributing the remaining gifts, that so far haven't been delivered by Clark.

Interesting thing here is that both,Santa and Superman, live at the northpole. While I don't know what Santa does there, Superman has his Fortress of Solitude there. According to the provided sources this Fortress has 3 Layers:

http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/Fortress/

http://theages.superman.ws/Encyclopaedia/Fortress/history.php


Be sure to check the symbolic language at the bottom of the page.

The arch-enemy of Clark Kent is Lex (Alexander) Luthor (See Uther Pendragon and probably Lucifer). He was shot in this episode on Christmas Eve and was 'raised' again at the end of the Episode.

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