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 Posted: Wed Dec 14th, 2005 08:33 pm
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A time ago, I already spoke with DreamTime in some way, I was amazed how women, esp. American women are actually studying the teachings of Expansions Inc.

I would suggest in the first place, the way Janet Swerdlow teaches is very woman friendly, but I'm convinced now, some women esp. American women also are very interested in the way Stewart Stewart is explaining things and is teaching the hyperspace things and NWO items he does.

So, here is my point:

I feel there is a big difference between American/Australian women and other women in the world with this.

i.e. I guess it is almost impossible to see a European woman who knows about or is able to follow the teachings of the Swerdlows in any way.

Where I see American/Australian women are much more familiar with these teachings, I think European women are much more mind-controlled to follow the social rules and the NWO-standards. And while I think European women have more free time to think for themselves, I'm absolutely convinced they choose to act the standard way: social rules, consumption and the last baby fashion, no matter what education they have had.

I'm not trying to state a kind of male superiority here or so, but it's amazing to see how the reactions and behaviour of women in my country seem to be all the  standard way. It seems they all try to escape to the standard: "being accepted" according the magazines and modern television.

And it's quite new for me. I feel in the past there was more difference and variation, let's say, 5-15 years ago I think there was more independent thinking under women.

Am I making a big mistake here ? :ninja:



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Octahedron, Stewart has talked about this and he has said that more women in the US are interested in his work than men. In other parts of the world it’s roughly half and half. So it sounds like its something about average US male being different than the average man in other parts of the world.

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Perhaps US men generally feel less comfortable opening up about themselves, and exploring their emotions?  The archetypal Hollywood male, and sports icons etc. do not exactly encourage this!

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What I have noticed that a lot of men in the US is they seem satisfied with what they think it the true and they don’t question it. I have always been the type to question things and dig for answers. So it kind of amazes me how accepting the average male is of what they learn in school or church in the US. They don’t question any of it and they automatically reject anything that is different than what they grew up believing. I am thankful to find like minded people here at this forum and at Expansions. P-Wink

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Interesting comment Hyperspace.

I also wonder how male/female reactions are influenced, depending on which Illuminati family is predominant in a particular country.  Any thoughts?

 

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They say the US has a higher percentage of programmed people. So that doesn’t help anything. It seems the average male that I have met is more focused on sports and toys more than anything else. You can’t have a mentally stimulating conversation with them. That’s why I was happy when I discovered Expansions and the people connected. I thought Wow, here are some like minded people that I can talk to. It’s rare to meet open mined people in the US. I have noticed the average male tends to be more closed minded than the average woman in the US. I’m not sure that can be entirely pinned to a ruling family. The US is also the most violent country. It’s a crazy country and I wouldn’t mind living somewhere better. The US is one big mind control experiment. Sometime I wonder why my oversoul picked Earth to check out. P-LOL

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Octahedron wrote:  i.e. I guess it is almost impossible to see a European woman who knows about or is able to follow the teachings of the Swerdlows in any way.


Maybe the Expansions stuff should be translated?

You also forget there are lots of European modalities here that are an alternative to Expansions. I know several women here in Germany that know about the Expansions teachings. They just don't want to belong to any 'herd' which is why they don't participate.

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Where I see American/Australian women are much more familiar with these teachings, I think European women are much more mind-controlled to follow the social rules and the NWO-standards. And while I think European women have more free time to think for themselves, I'm absolutely convinced they choose to act the standard way: social rules, consumption and the last baby fashion, no matter what education they have had.


I know people (men and women) from all over the earth and you really cannot say that one group is more mindcontrolled than the other. They all have their specific brainwash running in their minds. Those EU women I told about Expansions asked for proof that the Expansions stuff works before they try it, which I could not deliver to them.

As for social rules, everybody follows them.

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I'm not trying to state a kind of male superiority here or so, but it's amazing to see how the reactions and behaviour of women in my country seem to be all the  standard way. It seems they all try to escape to the standard: "being accepted" according the magazines and modern television.

The outer reflects the inner. You are just seeing your reflection.

Octahedron wrote: Am I making a big mistake here ? :ninja:
Not necessarily. But you use Expansions as the line and you assume that everybody who does not walk this line is mind-controlled. You also generalize too much here. I could show you examples that  would indicate  the reverse conclusion.  So I 'd say you are wrong here.
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Kris, thanks for your attention,

Kris Kringle wrote:

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i.e. I guess it is almost impossible to see a European woman who knows about or is able to follow the teachings of the Swerdlows in any way.



Maybe the Expansions stuff should be translated?

You also forget there are lots of European modalities here that are an alternative to Expansions. I know several women here in Germany that know about the Expansions teachings. They just don't want to belong to any 'herd' which is why they don't participate.


Ok, that's good news.

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Where I see American/Australian women are much more familiar with these teachings, I think European women are much more mind-controlled to follow the social rules and the NWO-standards. And while I think European women have more free time to think for themselves, I'm absolutely convinced they choose to act the standard way: social rules, consumption and the last baby fashion, no matter what education they have had.



I know people (men and women) from all over the earth and you really cannot say that one group is more mindcontrolled than the other. They all have their specific brainwash running in their minds. Those EU women I told about Expansions asked for proof that the Expansions stuff works before they try it, which I could not deliver to them.

There are proofs available; but the speed of getting results differs a lot depending on the persons.

As for social rules, everybody follows them.

Yes, but I see "social rules" and social rules; Something has changed significantly in the last 10 years in the way Televsion and Magazines are ruling the waves very agressively or seem to me: controlling everything.

Octahedron wrote:

I'm not trying to state a kind of male superiority here or so, but it's amazing to see how the reactions and behaviour of women in my country seem to be all the  standard way. It seems they all try to escape to the standard: "being accepted" according the magazines and modern television.


The outer reflects the inner. You are just seeing your reflection.

Good point, I was already thinking about that. :smile2:

So, I have to guess what's in me what is monitoring social female behaviour ?

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Am I making a big mistake here ? :ninja:
Not necessarily. But you use Expansions as the line and you assume that everybody who does not walk this line is mind-controlled. You also generalize too much here. I could show you examples that  would indicate  the reverse conclusion.  So I 'd say you are wrong here.






Yes, in this case I would like to generalize from Expansions Inc. to the general conspiracy and meta-physics stuff; I also see in Europe much less interest among females in other conspiracy lines like David Icke, Montauk Project, Bilderberg watchers etc.


But you say you have reverse examples; so I am very curious.....  :slywink:

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Octahedron wrote: Yes, in this case I would like to generalize from Expansions Inc. to the general conspiracy and meta-physics stuff; I also see in Europe much less interest among females in other conspiracy lines like David Icke, Montauk Project, Bilderberg watchers etc.
Where are you looking for that?
Icke books, Montauk books do not exist as reasonable translations at least in Germany. But I  guess there are no Italian od Spanish versions there as well. Also you have to see that Icke is not very good informaition and the Montauk stuff is only for a small group of people. Most of the above mentioned groups are not political enough to be recognized here in EU. But you won't deny that there is a huge amount of so called environmentalists, anti-globalists, alternattive health and science supporters here. They all do not like the ruling classes.

Octahedron wrote: But you say you have reverse examples; so I am very curious.....  :slywink:

Yes, reverse examples of Americans not interested in Expansions, Montauk or the Bilderberg watchers. Also Americans controlled by the media and following social rules. You will find them if you look closely. :big grin:

Also, if you look at the seminar video done in EU you will find that mostly women were there. Check also the posters on the Expansions forum and you will see the those who are posting from EU are mostly women.

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I think one thing about more women being open minded is because they use both half’s of their mind more than men. A lot of men tend to use their left brain more.

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In NZ sport is a way of life for a lot of people (male and female)!

Regarding the Illuminati family influence...

What I wonder is that in countries where the Windsors have more power, the herd mentality has more agression, and maybe in Rothschild areas the social control is more subtle, yet still overpowering.

I do think it is interesting the way people generally respond to their environment depending on gender/culture - but of course individuals have to be taken into account too!

Any more thoughts?

 

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Kris Kringle wrote: .....examples; so I am very curious.....  :slywink:

Yes, reverse examples of Americans not interested in Expansions, Montauk or the Bilderberg watchers. Also Americans controlled by the media and following social rules. You will find them if you look closely. :big grin:

Also, if you look at the seminar video done in EU you will find that mostly women were there. Check also the posters on the Expansions forum and you will see the those who are posting from EU are mostly women.


 

I'll think about it , but I .... still hadn't the experience the way you had :smirk:



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Monica wrote: Perhaps US men generally feel less comfortable opening up about themselves, and exploring their emotions?  The archetypal Hollywood male, and sports icons etc. do not exactly encourage this!
In this case parallel, you could say European women are also feeling less comfortable opening up about themselves than American women, which is very unlikely and I even think women all over the world in general are much better able to speak openly about emotions than men are.

Perhaps American women have a better eye for something hidden behind the scenes.

 



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Octahedron wrote: Monica wrote: Perhaps US men generally feel less comfortable opening up about themselves, and exploring their emotions?  The archetypal Hollywood male, and sports icons etc. do not exactly encourage this!
In this case parallel, you could say European women are also feeling less comfortable opening up about themselves than American women, which is very unlikely and I even think women all over the world in general are much better able to speak openly about emotions than men are.

Perhaps American women have a better eye for something hidden behind the scenes.

 

I don't think it would be automatic that European women are less comfortable opening up just because American men may have this issue.  In fact, throughout the world, I realise that it can be harder for men to discuss their issues because of societal conditioning.  I feel that both men and women are less comfortable these days about their emotions because of the programming we are bombarded with. 

My statement was generalised, and not meant to make a comment about men/women in other countries.  The archetypal "All-American" male is certainly broadcast to the world through the media, but not to the same extent as in America itself.  I thought that this image could create large blocks against getting into this type of material - but it is only a possibility.

I think each country needs to be looked at individually to see what the conditioning and imprinting is for male/female roles and acceptable behaviour.  What happens in one part of the world doesn't neccessarily compare to another part.  The male/female balance or imbalance in each nation is unique.

I'd like to bring up the idea I had previously that the Illuminati families have an effect on gender responses.  For example, in the Windsor nations, conformity seems to be more based around aggressive controls, wheras in Rothschild countries it is more of a subtle social conditioning around 'good taste'.  This is a theory only, so I am happy for people to give other ideas.

 

 

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In response to Monica's musings as to the tactics of the Rothschilds and Windsors, it has been my observation that the Rothschild faction is defintely more passive aggressive.This can be seen through their control of the banking system for centuries. Credit cards etc.(Isn't the Pindar of the Rothschild faction?) Still slavery is slavery no matter how it is obtained. There is a way out.The powers that be would have you believe that resistance is futile. Don't buy it!! I'm not saying it is easy but the stakes are too high to give up or in. 

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I'd like to bring up the idea I had previously that the Illuminati families have an effect on gender responses. For example, in the Windsor nations, conformity seems to be more based around aggressive controls, wheras in Rothschild countries it is more of a subtle social conditioning around 'good taste'. This is a theory only, so I am happy for people to give other ideas.

It is not only theory, it is the fact.

Windsor use aggressiveness, because it creates fear, and fear is always used to keep population in control.

Rothschild on the contrary like more to use subtle tactics, which are not brutal, but more scientific and psychologically deceptive. That can be seen observing the laws regulated in the EU.

Windsor family use old Reptilian mind control strategies, and Rothschild use Sirian mind-control technology.

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Hi Sariel and Mercy Now

Thanks for the response. 

I guess I put 'theory only' as a kind of self-protection measure, because I also know it is fact!!

From my experiences in various Windsor or Rothschild based countries I have seen a definite difference in the methods by which people conform to the herd mentality. 

How this affects male/female balance and the ability to see beyond the spoon-fed information is interesting to explore.

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i think it really has a lot to do with there being alot of abuse in the states. plus its setup towards being so important to the illuminati agenda would put women in the know there more inclined to deprogram and move on.

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There is as much abuse in the European nations as there is in the States. I don't agree with  country/nation bashing . That just plays into their demonic hands.



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wpw minding liek that probably gets you nowhere. can i get an amen?

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