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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior 
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That sucks then, Sariel. I need to be a certain way. 
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William Moderator 
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Ive never thought of myself as an artist, still dont. However Silverinf, I started doing creative things to understand myself and in that it gives me a feeling of closeness to something I cant describe, Just do it and you will know what im speaking (or not speaking) about! You are very creative, you have shown and proved your creativeness here many times over. You are an artist. Now feel it! Be it! We like who you are Now!
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PurpleParrot Hyperspace Warrior 
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I don't want to be egotistical/arrogant..but I know that my energies are best used as an artist, healer, leader or teacher...where the heck do I find a way to combine all of that? I have no clue where Oversoul is guiding me to...or do I but am I just too damn stubborn? I mean does it want me to be a professional dancer or just does it want me to take dance classes for some reason or another? or am I going to be like this nurse who dances and does natural healing on the side? am i going to be this weird multitasker? lol well maybe I'll just be me. we're all creative individuals...its just what we predisposed ourselves for before entering this reality.
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haven Hyperspace Warrior 
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I can relate Purple Parrot lol. My whole life I have drawn and painted, danced, sang, written poetry and fiction, and played musical instruments. I have also been pursuing spiritual integrity but I STILL haven't allowed myself to crystalize what I am actually supposed to be doing in terms of how others would view success. I moved gradually from doing graphic and web design into being a professional artist. I am currently trying to build a portfolio since I threw away a lot of work I did when I was younger. I have even sold a few pieces, but still it is very hard to feel like I am a "legitimate" artist. When I create "correctly" I am in the current, or flow of what I think of as the divine. I believe we all experience it the same way. You know it when you are there. There is no time, no feeling of place but just what is coming out of you. It's probably a question of finding what works for you. I do not think that formal training is even right for everyone, because thinking you have to have some "degree" can be a limiting thought pattern, and will definitely keep you from tapping in, because it can develop into a never ending quest for legitimacy - whereas taking classes and maybe getting a degree because you LOVE what you do is a very different place. Some things that work for me: I find the bigger I work, the easier it is and less trapped into mind-rules I am. Also working with "dirty" mediums like charcoals and clay bypass the "be civilized and conform" programming. Sometimes, I will work in this way to get loose before I move into watercolor, which is very stressful for me at times otherwise. Fingerpaints, or painting with acrylics but with your hands, is another great way to slip past the internal censor. The act of creating is a game, and is meant to be joyful. Avoid anything that robs you of that feeling, or makes you feel like you aren't good enough to be doing it. I think maybe artists are more plagued with self-doubts because once people begin the act of creation they are very empowered.
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William Moderator
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Very well said Haven, if ever you want to share some of your art or music i am very open to all of it. I love it when people share photos or art or music or graphic design. Ive appreciated the photos and art work that has been posted here or in private!
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Monica Guest
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I agree with you wholeheartedly Haven and William. Oftentimes people buy into wallpaper art and fashionable ideas. There are many artworks that have deeply disjointed and compartmentalized energies, which are promoted as 'deeper' and more sophisticated than simple clear pieces. Exploring the negative is important of course, but you can do that without imprinting destructive energies on yourself. Pure hyperspace energy flowing through you gives all the direction you need in what to create. Artwork can be an affirmation of a balanced empowered mind. This is from my visual deprogramming journal/Arke. An imprint of pure butterfly frequency, before it is distorted by programming. It was created with coloured pencils, ink, felt tip pens, and metallic markers. I had fun!  Magnetised Balance: Interdimensional Attachment: BUTTERFLY 8.jpg (Downloaded 120 times)
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Aethah Hyperspace Warrior 
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Ive always been facinated with art. Im a musician and have been in a couple of bands and lately i have written and recorded some new pieces. Hopefully i may release an album soon or something. I write poetry and I used to draw quite alot and i would like to get back into it. Im working on a couple of short stories. Both are fantasy fiction. They might end up being books, but i dunno yet, ill see how it goes.
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William Moderator
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Aethah, I wanna hear your music sometime! You play Keyboard right?
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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William: Thanks for your interest! I may put some stuff up here, but frankly I was worried that work prior to my beginning deprogramming may contain symbolic triggers I am not aware are present. I did a few with images of feathered serpents superimposed over the images, and there are spirals and spheres everywhere in my work (other than in straight landscapes) etc. Monica: WOW WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BUTTERFLY!!! :eek: :nod: That image is so exciting and encouraging to me. I am convinced that my difficulty in focusing on my work is because I am not "supposed" to be doing it and am taking control of my life by doing it anyway, and this image just gave me such a sense of being on the right track. Thank you for sharing it.
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William Moderator
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Cool Avatar Haven, did you make that? And yes Monica, thanks for sharing your painting!
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Monica Guest
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Thank you Haven and William! I felt like it was important to put a piece of artwork on this thread, to imprint the idea of all our ideas having validity.
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior 
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Nice picture, indeed. It is very ineteresting the use of many hyperspace symbolism in this picture. I am glad to have an opportunity to meet an artist with so many creative capabilities.
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Octahedron Hyperspace Warrior 
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 Cool, uploading hyperspace art ! I'll try to do so with my templatesThe picture of Monica reminds me to the style of Escher/Mondriaan.
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior
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I don't really understand what you want to say. There is no certain way in art. Even IT expert of computer programmer can be artists, if they know how to represent their work. In the first place, what is your motivation behind ambition to be an artist? Maybe Picasso is famous and great, but, in fact, all what Pablo Picasso was doing in his life was painting, and pursuing women. He had talent for drawing, and he developed it through his life. That is mostly all secret. For me, someone who knows how to make practical computer program I enjoy to use is an artist, too. Actually, more practical and useful than Picasso would ever be. SilverInfinity wrote: That sucks then, Sariel. I need to be a certain way.
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior
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I like works from Mauritius Cornelius Escher more than works from Piet Mondriaan. Though, I am not a big fun of Escher or Mondriaan. There are many painters coming from the Netherlands, indeed. Octahedron wrote:
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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Thanks William, yes I did make it, playing around in photoshop :big grin: This one actually has a watercolor of whales that I did along with some photoshop stuff done to it: (er hope this works I haven't tried posting an image yet lol) Attachment: journey2.jpg (Downloaded 64 times)
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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That is a great job, haven. Photoshop should be used to scan hand drawn art to improve on. I taught my past roommate the very basics of photoshop (layering, effects, the tools, etc) in less than a day and he was on his way to make outrageous EMO t-shirt art with just his own drawings scanned into the computer and some messing around with Photoshop. I was quite impressed. I could use Photoshop, but with my skillls alone never could I make the professional Photoshop images that sell, because I just don't have the drawing skills. Sariel, I don't think you understood me. I meant art that creates wonderous impressions on people such as fright, happiness, sadness, etc etc. This kind of subtle suggestion can only be made by "sensual art." I want to become a "sensual artist." Programming and many other types of work that spark creativity of course are peices of art, but being practical in design or varying, I want to distinguish away from just that. I'm talking about art that creates impression in all of humanity. The very sensual art that is universal in language and in sync with our emotions: Singing, poetry, dancing, acting, painting sculptors, etc etc. I want to understand how the sensual artists overpower everyone of all backgrounds with senses at even the most primitive of art forms with such expressions as an evil face, gloomy colors, etc etc. What is the mind-pattern that lets them connect to people at the emotional level through art? I do not see how someone who just draw everyday will stumble to that kind of genius power. Of course, acting, dancing, and singing easily influences one's emotions.
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior
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http://sothebys.com/ Gustav Klimt's 'Adele Bloch Bauer' sells for $135 Million http://blogcritics.org/archives/2006/06/20/112929.php Picasso's "Boy With A Pipe" ("Garçon a la Pipe") was sold to an anonymous bidder represented in the room by Warren Weitman of Sotheby's for $93 million. (full price was $114 million - $11 million of commision fot auction house Sotheby's.  Pablo Picasso Portrait of Dora Maar brings $95,216,000 at Sotheby's This is the second highest price ever paid for a painting at auction. EVENING SALE OF IMPRESSIONIST AND MODERN ART TOTALS $207.6 MILLION – SOTHEBY’S HIGHEST TOTAL SINCE SPRING 1990. http://www.news-antique.com/?id=781416  Hehe, this is funny... Andy Warhol’s 1962 Small Torn Campbell’s Soup Can was purchased for $11.7 million  It seems like some expensive can of soup
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior
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Sariel, I don't think you understood me. I meant art that creates wonderous impressions on people such as fright, happiness, sadness, etc etc. Well, the price of these photos is creating many impression on people. Ask just yourself under what impression person need to be to paid all that money for something like these pictures. This kind of subtle suggestion can only be made by "sensual art." I want to become a "sensual artist." Programming and many other types of work that spark creativity of course are peices of art, but being practical in design or varying, I want to distinguish away from just that. I'm talking about art that creates impression in all of humanity. The very sensual art that is universal in language and in sync with our emotions: Singing, poetry, dancing, acting, painting sculptors, etc etc. Honestly, in most cases $$$ & €€€ is the best way to make impression in all humanity. Though, your task to become "sensual artist" is a noble one, what I appreciate very much. I want to understand how the sensual artists overpower everyone of all backgrounds with senses at even the most primitive of art forms with such expressions as an evil face, gloomy colors, etc etc. You let your mind to be distracted with color/tones and impressions you are receiving from your environment through your five senses affecting your subconscious/conscious mind. I believe the term "the most primitive af art forms" is referring to our most basic and primitive emotions/behaviour patterns which are only reflections of our subconscious mind. In fact, in the last 10000 years or more, we have had fast developing of our conscious mind (ethics, moral, culture) but our subconscious mind had change very little or not at all. You can see that in True Reality of Sexuality how our sexual impulses are still on the same level of development as it was when we were prehistoric hunters. Evil faces and gloomy colors are just our prehistoric reactions encoded in our DNA from the time when we started to learn verbal/emotions and language expressions. First artists in the prehistoric societies had more developed basic verbal and motoric abilities what gave them an ability to attract other members of the tribe in their circles. In some animal species the most powerful and influencing member in the group, is an animal with most powerful and developed verbal behaviour, someone who is the loudest member of the group. If this look little abstract, just look at the example of Adolf Hitler who was able only using the power of his voice to build one political movement which had lead to WW2, as we saw. In fact, Hitler had known the psychology of people very well in he operated always on their most basic and primitive emotions. Of course, using grand spectacles and grand causes he had influence on their superconsciousness, too. What is the mind-pattern that lets them connect to people at the emotional level through art? Heh, you can see it on the example of Hitler, or in the example of Mother Teresa or Ghandi. In fact, all of them were Illuminati agents or related to them and all of them had their way to connect with people emotions using some sort of art (verbal expression, acting, dancing rituals...and so on) In fact, all the art movements you are referring here are created by reptilian/Illuminati groups to control different societies. In the past, it was religion in the form of praying and rituals as going in the church, and now art or shopping is becoming object of our religious experiences and rituals. What else is political propaganda and media advertisment if not connecting to people at the emotion level to obtain or votes or to sell product. After all, artists want to sell their products, too. I do not see how someone who just draw everyday will stumble to that kind of genius power. Of course, acting, dancing, and singing easily influences one's emotions. Someone who is painter must to have a feel or an idea how other people would participate pictures and images. However, I think that most of famous painters became famous partly because they brought attention on themselves through their lives. Picasso was made famous after his love/sexual adventures, Salvador Dali was eccentric, and van Gogh sometimes little crazy. They are many good other artists, too, but if they are not very well known anyone don't want buy their pictures for high prices. Obviously, most of people who paid millions for famous pictures, are actually snobs. Art is a form of power, and is partly related to science. You can use it for positive and negative purposes. Last edited on Tue Jun 27th, 2006 03:33 am by Sariel |
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Thank you Sariel for the information. That kind of power can be used with a positive or negative intent. I agree with you. Artists using their talents to fit the mainstream art are falling for the reptilians' need to control the masses. Then there are those who don't. They create art so that other people can experience and learn from it. Of course, most of them can hardly make a living. (Most. Some few are surpassers or multi-talented.) I think Hitler was a genius and artist for his verbal abilities, but a mad one who wanted genocides. Deeply mind-controlled, he thinks of himself as a reptile conquering countries like Poland because they have traces of certain genetics. Too bad he was only human as he wouldn't been able to use them for ritual sacrificial purposes. He is an example of artists working right into the hands of the reptilians. I still don't have a clear idea of what the mind-pattern is though. Isolation would make a great artist or any other hobbyist because it lets people become sensitive towards their intuition and learning process, but I believe that is too vague in this case. I'm looking for the mind-pattern to create art that can have power over others for negative or positive intent. Art that is so overwhelming (dancing, singing, painting sculpturing) unlike my archetypes that the person would cry, feel gloomy, happy, inspired etc etc. Like the art peices Sariel posted, they make you MUST FEEL.
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