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xan-i Hyperspace Warrior
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SilverInfinity - it may be helpful to look into the life and works of Vincent VanGogh.
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Thank you. It never occured to me that I should analyze the lives of artists to understand the mind-patterns.
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Monica Guest
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In my consultation with Stewart, when we discussed my music, he told me that it has to come from Within. When it is something you FEEL in yourself, then it does not matter what anyone else thinks. Rather than consider yourself a better artist for how you nfluence others, consider yourself an artist when you express yourself in a way that feels correct for you, and moves something from within your mind/heart into the world in a unique way. Writing is an artform - so contribution to forums is practice in art! I disagree that people cannot become genius level just by working on their drawings etc. by themselves. This is actually exactly how 'genius' is formed!!! You observe self and environment, and try many different things, until your own style starts to emerge. Soemtimes you have get some 'stuff' out of your system first. My mother has a 'doodle' book, where she randomly draws designs etc. She does not feel artistic, but it a form of self-expression for her own peace and enjoyment. In my singing I had 8 years of classical training. Then, I quit all of this, and started working with hyperspace ideas and toning to see if I could be a better singer that way. For two years I have gradually opened up my voice in remarkable ways through screaming, yelling, toning, laughing, writing affirmations, using colour and archetypes, thinking about how the chakra system is related to singing (i.e. the mind-patterns of the physical body parts involved in singing), quietly thinking and thinking, watching children and how they talk and express themselves, deprogramming, writing and communicating with like-minded people, mentally releasing blocked energy from my throat and heart, learning about my deepest emotions so I can be comfortable showing them, loving and hating things and people, practicing ROARRRRing like a lion (really!), making Dolphin, Wolf, and Bear sounds too, listening to the wind in the trees and water on the beach and wondering if I can make those sounds too, trying sounds that are outside conventional tonality, listening to music for hours every day, writing poems about my experiences, overcoing my fear of creating melodies to go with them, learning to listen within to find the words and music I need, working with Oversoul, talking to God-Mind........... Immerse yourself in what you LOVE. You don't have to have an output at first. I did not sing at all for 5 months. I just listened and did mental release work from my voice. Then I wrote a series of affirmation to open up my abilities, and the result in the next fortnight was astounding. I have many ideas these days about anmal frequencies, voice accents, language learning, music programming/deprogramming, and therapy etc. Soon, I am gonig to be holding some music classes for children based on them needing a space for unqie self-expression i.e. to find their VOICE. In my artwork, I am not hugely prolific either - only one or two pieces ever couple of months. I paint when I FEEL like it. Just let the world show you it's own art, and you'll find what lies within. Don't stress about what effect you should have, or what level you shod reach. It is a journey of self-discovery. Open your eyes, and you'll see. Watch how colours in nature mingle together, how sunsets light up the world, how broken sidewalks creating interesting patterns, rust on cars contrasts with the finish.... observe all the colours and textures around you. That is the most basic introduction creating artwork: colour/texture. Making recognisable forms is not compulsory, and that can develop in time in a personal manner anyway. Just relax and let it flow...
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William Moderator
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When I was younger I wanted to play the piano, I could not understand it. I could play notes, then chords, but I just couldnt understand how the keyboard worked. So I moved onto guitar, at first I didnt understand that either, but i kept after it. I just kept playing the guitar, I dont really learn other people songs, I just play my songs. It makes my heart swell up. Just keep playing what you love! Do you love painting? Do you love Drawing, or photoshop or thinking or music? Start now and you will look back one day and say "at first i didnt know how to play or sing or draw, but now i do"... Now im gonna go read what Monica wrote again and maybe some day..............
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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SI, the drive to make great art is shared I would guess by everyone who creates. If one is not careful though that desire to make something awe-inspiring will turn into a paralysis of fear when faced with a blank page or canvas. You must give yourself permission to practice. If you look at each of the great artists, they did do practice sketches,they have works they gave up on, and some of their finished paintings are simply not as good as others. Also, when you read about some artists talking about various works they will refer to the lucky mistake, that chance thing you don't plan that happens and makes a work distictive and better than it would have been if it had been executed to perfection. I used to be very judgemental about art I would see hanging places and think "Ugh, how can someone pay that much for that?" or "Wow, I will never make anything as good as that". Now, though, I think that the act of doing it is really what matters. Why else would be surrounded by so much culture-chatter about how difficult making big bucks with art is, and how "real" art is really for a selected special few? One thing is true in all of it: if we never pick up the brush, or pencil, or instrument, or whatever, then nothing is certain to happen. The act of doing should show you the mind pattern you are looking for.
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Sariel Hyperspace Warrior
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That kind of power can be used with a positive or negative intent. I agree with you. Artists using their talents to fit the mainstream art are falling for the reptilians' need to control the masses. Yes, you can't success in Hollywood if you have some moral and ethics standars. Then there are those who don't. They create art so that other people can experience and learn from it. Of course, most of them can hardly make a living. (Most. Some few are surpassers or multi-talented.) Right I think Hitler was a genius and artist for his verbal abilities, but a mad one who wanted genocides. Deeply mind-controlled, he thinks of himself as a reptile conquering countries like Poland because they have traces of certain genetics. Too bad he was only human as he wouldn't been able to use them for ritual sacrificial purposes. He is an example of artists working right into the hands of the reptilians. Hitler was smart, but he was not genius. And he wasn't artist. He believed he is, but that was result of his personality disorder. He was bad painter as he was bad writer. There were many factors behind him and it would need a book do describe all of them. Nazist did practised ritual sacrifices. It is partly about what concentration logors were. I have been killed in one of that concentration/prison camp during my WW2 lifeline. I still don't have a clear idea of what the mind-pattern is though. Isolation would make a great artist or any other hobbyist because it lets people become sensitive towards their intuition and learning process, but I believe that is too vague in this case. No, not at all! Prolonged isolation is not good in any way. I'm looking for the mind-pattern to create art that can have power over others for negative or positive intent. Art that is so overwhelming (dancing, singing, painting sculpturing) unlike my archetypes that the person would cry, feel gloomy, happy, inspired etc etc. Like the art peices Sariel posted, they make you MUST FEEL. Art is something what comes from you feeling and sensitive, spontaneous part of your personality. Contrary to this is our analytic, mathematic side of us. However, we both are mix of that two sides, but, artists have ability to disconnect from our logic side and express their artistic creativity. They are influencing with that transformation their public which feel the same creative sensations or upliftment. However, it doesn't mean that someone with dominant analytic & logical personality can't feel another or similar sort of creative/artistic sensations. It is all about genetics. You can see very well difference between posts when person is writing with activated Sirian/Reptilian genetics, and other members who have dominant Lyraen genetics. unlike my archetypes Your archetypes are quite good. Your archetypes are making strong impression over people. You just don't see it because their power is not in intensity, but in length of time. Last edited on Wed Jun 28th, 2006 06:22 am by Sariel |
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Thank you everone. I hope in another lifetime that I am talented in the right-brain expressive artforms. In this lifetime, I don't have the active genetics or interests even though I really want to experience this genius faculty of stream of thought in art and the power of it to sway someone's emotions. Somethings are just stupid genetics. I want to experience it, but I can't make myself love it enough as I was not exposed to it by my boring parents. That, and that art is not in our heritage. So I must learn to be apathetic about this.
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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SI, like Sariel and others have said, your archetype image work is wonderful, and frankly I don't think my visualizations would be as good as they are without them. They were the first thing that drew me to this site and looking further into Stewart's and Janet's work. I can respect that you may choose not to experience the right brain creativity this go around, and it is very frustrating to want to do something badly but not be able to muster the needed passion around it (if I understand what you said in your last post clearly). However I am an eternal optimist, and I wonder if your desire for this is already part of your ...okay, I am not sure I am going to say this correctly :rolleyes:, but I will try. The desire for this could mean you have begun a mind pattern or have an existing one for it and maybe as you journey along it will manifest fully within you, or be activated fully. Either way, I for one and deeply grateful for what you give here and wish that I could find a way to help so many people like you have with your work. And Sariel: you look very grown up! :nod: Wow, I hadn't thought about how different genetics would be evident in how we all look at this subject. Now I have to go back and re-read everything lol
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Thank you haven. I hope my future selves will be grateful for the kind of frustration I'm going through. :mad2:
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VioletDolphin Guest
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lots of lessons lately frieends. for one, no matter what, keep going. if old sabotage seems to go right in your face even after you release it, look that energy right in the eye and imnprint it your way, you might as well. do not communicate with anyone that's getting in your way, it only gets more annoying. keep going at yourself, at others in mind through your oversoul regardless of how they are thinking. that'll stop them from thinking they can do that. do not feel like you should be doing "the right thing". do only what's right for you, inside, no matter what. the will be forced to change if all they are is an imcumberance. dinally let everythign that's negative fall awy, release to oversoul. relationships ovccur on a variety of level. including in things as small as ideas and thoughts to people and places and things. just like god mind compartmentalizes ideas you can ley compatymenyalizations fall away/out. so nehative thougths about you, vibratory imprints habit responses.... basically anythign getting in your way. i created a bunch before , based off interferance from programmers and handlers. they can just fall away too. make sure you son't buy that "believe in yourself" stuff, you alreafy fo. might as well accept that. gold aleph. Diego José
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Monica Guest
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Hi Diego Jose Well, I really needed that post today.... Just as soon as I start working on my ideas for musical/artistic expansions... BAMM!! I get sabotage from within and without, and begin to feel like I have no chance or ability to lead a self-sufficient, independant life in my own manner, and that maybe I should give up and give in to the grind.... :/ Thanks for the reminders. I feel more like carrying on now. You have great timing. Must that Oversoul connection at work. :big grin: Love Monica
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Aethah Hyperspace Warrior
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Hi William Sorry, i forgot about this thread I play keyboard, guitar and abit of vocals and percussion. I want to get lessons on piano and maybe down the track i might learn some violin. I just want to be the best musician i can. I believe its one of my main creative functions in physical reality and i feel the strong desire to do something with it. The main musical influences at the moment would include World Music, Deadcandance, Enya, Sigur Ros and stuff like that.
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William Moderator
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Aethah, Thanks for the reply. Ive done some studio stuff. Here is a test song if you wanna go listen. I cant remember if i sent you pm with the link so here it is if anyone else is interested. I will be posting more songs one day to it. Its not finished but I feel the need to atleast get some up. Im looking for others that might want to do music, singing or Creative in Animation and want to fit music to animation or slide shows or movies.... Anyway. Would love to hear your stuff if you gotz any! (Ive talked about music ever since ive been on this fourm so i feel like i need to prove to myself and others that i really do music.) http://www.bandthatneverwas.com/studio/ You must put in Username = hyperspace password = william
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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Hey, I listend too :big grin:. Great stuff! I love the song. The guitar was particularly nice for me. Was this with a whole band? You probably said before and I have just forgotten. If so sorry Also I put some older unfinished artwork up on photobucket since you had mentioned you might want to see some and thought this was specifically interesting (others welcome too, but as always please use violet if you look since I have no idea what was going on with me back then): http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i80/havenspace/?action=view¤t=inspiral.jpg&refPage=&imgAnch=imgAnch6 It was never finished as it was one of the very first things I did just to "play" with paint three years ago when I felt really compelled to stop doing computer work and paint full time. I also had never heard of hyperspace work and "programming" at that time, unfortunately. If you decide to go through some of the others there I will warn you there are a couple of "winged serpent" paintings that I did after a trip across the southwest, also early stuff and in my mind unfinished. I went around to see for myself a lot of the cave paintings and rock painting sites and got morbidly fascinated by this image. I could never "get it right", so I gave up on it. Now I think it was stuff trying to surface to my conscious mind.
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William Moderator
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Haven, Loved your artwork! Thats so neat how you had symbols in your work before you really understood them. You have a zen quality and also a smooth easy feel to your stuff! Cute kitty! (Is that you in your paintings?) The music i did all myself. I would really love to have a band, but i dont want to actually be a traveling band so i dont push being a band, I would rather record others, however since my energy does not match where i live now Its hard attracting the right peeps. So I would love to attract others that want to be creative without all the ego. If only i had a dollar for every time i was told "With our music were gonna Rule the world" ((((funney how all the musicians i use to hang with are out of my life since ive started deprogrammin!))))
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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That is very cool that you did all the music yourself. I completely understand about travelling a lot though. (Although with the quake situation here I am quite glad to be going to Chicago for a week at the end of this month whereas normally I'd be more put off by it :big grin Glad you liked the artwork! I am horribly hard on myself about it, but am currently experimenting with hyperspace work and using color while I paint and draw, so will be curious to see what happens there. That "was" me in the paintings. My hair is naturally curly and was long and red, although NOW it is currently short and blonde (and based on the work I have been doing that is currently disturbing to me, but what isn't right now? :paranoid: :big grin: Definitely having one of those "Just who am I?" weeks.) Eistein the cat is quite a character. I should put up a picture of the newer siamese kitty too :nod:
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Hey haven, I agree with William that there is a smooth zen-like feeling to your artwork. I pick up that the woman (you) was enticed to some kind of vortex. By the way, the archetypes at the left are actually hyperspace symbols. I don't remember a lot of the shapes, but one looks like it represents the subconscious, and the spirals fair enough are vortices. The oval with a dash through the middle probably means a balanced mind. So these symbols look like they deal with the mental abilities to create life moments. And also, the True Reality of Sexuality said that male energy (sky blue) enters through a vortex at the vagina into the astral realms (which would be a pale red spiral) as part of the sexual magic act. Even if you consciously wanted to portray finding the way back to heavens, your artwork with the lady still has a pale red spiral on sky blue background. I'm intepreting this artwork from my memory of the archetypes though! So don't take my word for it. But interesting that you draw this before knowing about hyperspace archetypes, huh?
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haven Hyperspace Warrior
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SI: Thanks for the commentary:nod: . I DO think it is interesting that those symbols came through before I had "seen" them consciously. Of course, they are always available to everyone we just don't know how to get to them. I have always believed in the existence of what I thought of as "universal symbols", a not-language, that is remembered subconsciously even if people today can't actively remember what they meant. No wonder I feel drawn to hyperspace work, huh? :big grin: Enticed to some sort of vortex...I think that has has happened twice that I have memories around. Once as a child and once after I moved to CA. Some background to the paintings, for what it is worth: after I moved to CA. I underwent a radical change that seemed to be arrested (?) by the intervention of three people who appeared in my life, two of which told me they were dragons in human form (the third felt he was a dragon in a previous life). Now, I had no idea at that time what they were really telling me and yes I was an idiot. Knowing what I know now I was also probably triggered. I eventually ended up leaving the country for awhile under odd circumstances. I ended up cutting off contract with the dragons and came back home. Then I started painting these paintings (2003...I think.) I WANT to paint more things along the line of these, to somehow communicate with and get people thinking, but I seem to be seriously locked out of it. So my "technique" has improved but I can only paint landscapes without serious discomfort, and that ticks me off because I hate painting landscapes. I hate painting them so much it makes me NOT want to paint:mad2:. SO I am hoping the hyperspacedeprogramming work will help me with this. EDIT: I almost forgot! I also had a general artist realization the other day about a mind pattern. There is enormous angst among artists about painting in a "pure" environment i.e.: the perfect neutral lighting, absolutely white walls so no colors get cast, etc. Everyone is like "No one will buy your work if the colors look different from one place to the next." Although I have done this, I always felt it was more like a sterile medical place than a creative space. I mean, we LIKE color that is why we are painting. So I got this radical idea to say screw it and added colored drapes to my window :ninja: . I mean, how much do I really care if my purple looks less blue outside than it did in here? Maybe all this "white" is just another limiting mind pattern: if I don't have the perfect space to work I can't paint; If I have color around it will distract/influence me (er, not always a bad thing); If I don't work in a space like everyone else then my peers will think I am an amatuer\ignorant\whatever. I will keep you posted on how it goes. Last edited on Fri Jul 14th, 2006 02:24 am by haven ____________________ "My life has a superb cast but I can't figure out the plot." - Ashleigh Brilliant |
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SilverInfinity Hyperspace Warrior
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Wow haven. You met shapeshifters. I wish one day I will meet a shapeshifting woman. You came here because you always believed in universal symbols and almost learned about reptilian shapeshifters! It is amazing how you got here. I believe there's no way except your oversoul forcefully drew you here. Glad it did because you found a phenomemon place.
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Avatar Hyperspace Warrior
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Weng wroteI wish one day I will meet a shapeshifting woman. It is best and constructive only to focus on removing your Victimization Mind Patterns and learning to live in the joy and peace of Divine Love within a concentrated connection to God Mind.
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