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archangel_josh Hyperspace Warrior 
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Can science explain these energies? -Josh
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Astrojewels Super Moderator 
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I believe if you had a scientist who is open minded (there are more coming out and searching for answers to the non-physical world) they could explain in a scientific form of the energy when a ghost is present, because when a ghost visits or is present, the room changes energetically, energy is the only way to communicate with the spirit world. We need scientists and they need us, and as we grow universally the two will come together like never before, I have believed this for a long time now. We do not evolve the universal force, IT evolves us, we have no power of it, but it has great power over us through the wonderful energy of balance and consistency. The energy of the planets do not fight one another for power or position, they all work together united to individually create a whole balance, this force can be rejected by the individual physically and logically, yet the collective consciousness of the universal power has already began to penetrate all of us. Trust the scientist to evolve as we do and it will happen.
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energyhealer Hyperspace Warrior 
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The scientific community seems to be lagging behind on many metaphysical subjects, including research into ghost phenomenons and entities. So many people, myself included, have seen ghosts. The quantity of people who have had these experiences seems to point at the direction of there being "something" more than science. Everyone has to come to these conclusions on their own, but for anyone who has seen a ghost, there is never any more doubt about their existence. At least that's the way it was for me. 
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archangel_josh Hyperspace Warrior
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Yeah, I believe that they are real, even though I've not ever seen one. However, I don't believe they're spirits or souls or anything primitive like that. No doubt they're energy and made up of the same things that we are (atoms - aren't we all?).....one day, when people start to take scientific research seriously, we will all know what they are. Do you think that they could be 'animals' of some sort - a living energy that lurks around certain places to 'feed' on fear or other emotions that it invokes? -josh
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Josh, I have seen many many ghosts, and they are definitely the energetic sprit of a soul, many years ago I was very openly receptive to the spirit world, which by choice I put a protection block on because they would not leave me alone. So I took control of my ability to receive information from this unseen world and now only allow certain energy in. Ghosts are energy like you say; however they are non-physical energy that structures a physical form/outline for the purpose that you see it with your eyes, because the majority of people have their real vision blocked. I have done countless clearings of homes where ghosts are present, and many are very advanced so they can move furniture and scare the home owners etc. they are real, and most of them are basically stuck between the two worlds, and very often the ghosts of loved ones will show themselves in their human form, (yet in a transparent way) as you knew them, to reassure that they can enter and exit these worlds, however they can not guide or tell you answers, only comfort your loss, their non-physical structure creates them to be extremely bound to universal law, the ego body is not present so they can only do so much.
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD 
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Astrojewels wrote: ...(yet in a transparent way)... I have seen them only as transparent also. They were not solid beings. Here's my experience with them: ghosts don't seem to follow me around, I have to go to where they live or hang out. My first sighting -- I do not even remember at this point -- it was Mrs. Knight of the Corrolla Hunting Club. I only have my families description of what I told them about the sighting as this was in the early 1960's. In the 1980's I lived in a very old farm house in Berlin Maryland. I saw an old man, a hanging cat, shoes walking around with no legs in them. The old man was doing what I consider to be comical stuff -- he was sleeping several feet off the ground (laying down) and he had on a man's long night gown and sleeping cap. He wasn't looking at me or chasing me -- he was doing his own thing. It was like we were just sharing the same home, which we were. I think he was from another era though, given the nightgown he was wearing and night cap. In the home I live in now, some very extraordinary things have happened but no sightings. Forks seem to flying into the sink, pans bang, lights blink, two summers in a row this great devoted frog/toad sat on our porch night after night after night. Last night my husband, who recently had a death on his side of the family, said between waking and sleeping state yesterday he heard a man's voice say to him "I need to speak with you". Husband is also the one who had his sister-in-law sit down on the edge of his bed the night she died.
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Interesting sily, I enjoy ghost stories as long as they have not put fear in people, they can do that, it sounds like your hubby is a bit of a magnet for them, how does he feel about it? Is he into the paranormal like you are? When I was a teen, I used to have a friend and her house was haunted, I wish I had the skills back then to fully understand and clear that house, but I am sure it was more of a lower astral energy in there because people occasionally got hurt and it could not be explained, and just like you say with flying forks etc, stuff would just move in front of your eyes. Frogs and toads can be a sign of ‘visitors’ we had a very bizarre frog visit us a few years back, but when they start acting all crazy it is usually an indication of the change of energy in the home from the visitor, frogs are extremely sensitive to earth frequency and are not fully acknowledged for their imperative importance.
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Astrojewels wrote: ...how does he feel about it? Is he into the paranormal like you are?... He's not into it nearly as much as I am. He doesn't really like to discuss it much either. I like to ask questions and he got a bit cranky this morning when I was asking him about his past *visitation* and "Do you believe in ghosts?" -- he kinda went like this - >  - held both arms out and shrugged and said "I don't know. 50/50 maybe?" Last night when he spoke of the voice he heard I had like a million questions: was it a male voice or a female voice? Were you scared when you heard the voice? Did they say anything else? Have you heard voices like this before? ..... and getting information from him can be hard sometimes. You know how some women, and I don't mean ALL women, but some women like to talk about *feelings* and *thoughts* and *ideas* and god forbid *emotions* and like to "dig" a bit .... well.... most of the time he just doesn't like to talk about all the stuff I'm trying to pry out of him.  This is very important - never have the ghosts I've seen hurt me or scared me. They never chased me or were carrying rattling chains or none of the things seen on the TV. I read your frog story and I just wanted to add that interestingly it was husband who saw the frog first and we kind of claimed it to be "his". We both thought it was there for him, not me, if that is possible to know. It was trying to climb the stairs to get to the top when he was coming home one night. It got knocked off the porch by the dogs -- I watched it roll in the dirt and try to climb the stairs again. We'd turn off the light, it would stay on the porch all night and be gone every morning. For two summers it became a joke between me and husband and we'd say "go check the porch to see if The Frog is there" and sure enough it would be there same place ... to the left of the door. I took pictures of it, got right up into it's face, and it never moved. I poked at it's body with my finger, it never moved. I thought it's be afraid of me but, nope. Getting back on topic to the original question Can science explain these energies? I think if a scientist fooled around with the brain long enough and induced maybe a change in brain waves, or conscious levels or even squirted DMT into the pineal, I think people would be able to see different energies and dimensions. My dogs see things I can't and do lots of barking into the upper corners of rooms.
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DreamTime Here I Be 
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That's really interesting about frogs. I never knew that. We always seem to have frogs coming up to our door. It drives Anubis batty.  He'll go and sniff them and then freak out if they jump. Some hunter, huh? He is never afraid of squirrels or bunnies or groundhogs...wonder why frogs? Maybe he knows what they are here for. 
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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I've had a dog or two foam at the mouth when going after a frog. They didn't die, but it turns out many frogs/toads can kill dogs with a poison that's on them. Also, I hear some people lick frogs and get a hallucinative trip somehow. Link: What To Do If Your Dog Bites A Toad Anubis is smart. He knows there's poison on them froggies.
____________________ "If you look for me, Maria, you will find me in the shade, wide awake or in a dream... it's hard to tell." -- from *Our Lady of The Well* |
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RandomRainbow Hyperspace Warrior
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people hallucinating after licking frogs?! never heard that one before lol but about ghosts,ive seen and communicated with them, as well as helped others deal with the not so pleasant ones...i reckon scientists will one day be able to prove their existance, maybe when we develop more advanced technology...
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Sily wrote: ...I just wanted to add that interestingly it was husband who saw the frog first and we kind of claimed it to be "his". We both thought it was there for him, not me, if that is possible to know. It was trying to climb the stairs to get to the top when he was coming home one night. It got knocked off the porch by the dogs -- I watched it roll in the dirt and try to climb the stairs again. We'd turn off the light, it would stay on the porch all night and be gone every morning. For two summers it became a joke between me and husband and we'd say "go check the porch to see if The Frog is there" and sure enough it would be there same place ... to the left of the door. I took pictures of it, got right up into it's face, and it never moved. I poked at it's body with my finger, it never moved. I thought it's be afraid of me but, nope.... Well, I am very happy to update this thread to say..... as of July 5th, 2008 our FROG is back!!!! It has been several years since our porch frog has been sitting night after night on the porch, but last night - upon coming home from work, husband finds frog sitting in same spot as before, at the top of the porch. It is interesting to note that it was once again husband who saw this frog first, it was not me. I still think this is *his* frog. I will try to take pictures. This is very, very special..... to have a porch frog return after an absence of so many years and to sit on the top of the porch!!!
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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I wonder where your frog has journeyed in this time silly, and why would he be back to say G’day? keep us informed to his movements and if he does anything special. He might be here to celebrate your birthday…
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Well, I have had a thought - - the first time the *frog sitting* happened was the summer of 2001. And then 2 months later September 11, 2001 - 9/11 happened in New York City. I am going to see if something very serious happens within the next two months. If nothing serious happens in the next two months, I will put my Frog Messenger theory to rest. But if something happens again, it has to be really earth shattering, I will be thinking this is a messenger frog. I keep calling it a frog, but it might be a toad. I hope to take a picture then maybe post the picture on some frog-identification-forum to find out if it's toad or frog. I don't know what sex it is either -- male/female? It just sits there and stares straight ahead, not talking much or offering much information. 
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Okay Astrojewels, I'm back with one more thought - maybe it's not a Messenger Frog like I was saying above. Maybe it just the simple act of a frog sitting on a porch. Unusual some might think but I do find some comfort in the idea it's just a frog sitting on a porch and it doesn't mean anything. :-) Who knows? I *think* I might *think* too much.
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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I find frogs to be very mysterious, maybe your right, maybe its just a frog sitting on your porch, but I find that hard to believe, and I am sure you do too, what about my frog, he was a weird one and I don’t think I ever understood his message, I don’t think you have to understand the message just the energy of the visit, there is something unexplainable about frogs, we get a little bit of rain, and bang the whole area is singing with frog fornication, there are eggs everywhere in the tiny puddles, they are such survivors and I think that is what makes them so mystifying. Try to tune into the energy of just you, hubby and the frog, see if that brings anything, what is the frog doing while visiting?
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Astrojewels wrote: ...Try to tune into the energy of just you, hubby and the frog, see if that brings anything, what is the frog doing while visiting?... I have an update.... July 8th and 7th there have been no sightings on the porch. This morning I asked husband if when he came home last night, did he see Porch Frog? He said "No" but did see a tiny frog on the ground hopping around near the first step. I figure that's pretty normal so no big surprise. Historically the Porch Frogs just sit there, not moving at all. I want to say almost like they are in a trance! I even poked one with my finger and it did not scurry away! Crazy! And then there is the time I didn't see the frog in front of the door, I let the dogs out and the dogs hit the frog with their front paws and knocked the frog off 4 steps and into the dirt. Well.... I just about lost it (crying) when I saw the frog take a tumble in the dirt, rolling over and over and then sit straight upright and try to climb the steps again! I thought "WHY"? Don't you want a safer place? Ahhhhh.. I just remembered something else that I had forgotten - one time we opened the front door and the Porch Frog hopped inside our home! It wanted in! It got in! The dogs were going crazy but I got it out. Now, I'm writing this at 7:16pm and it's still light out. We have had a thunderstorm and the ground was VERY wet when I came home. Walking into the house I surveyed the whole yard for jumping frogs, both tiny and large. Nothing at all seen. At around 9pm when it's dark I'll try again to look and ask husband to try before he goes to bed (we go to bed at different times, he stays up later than me).
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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It seems like he has journeyed on to his next porch silly, my dogs get funny with frogs as well, but they don’t want to eat them, they are curious about them! it sounds like don’t like picking the frog up silly? I think frogs always look like they are in some type of trance, like they are hypnotized to just stare….
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Yeah, I agree about the trance part. Maybe they have to be that way to catch bugs, if they were moving around a lot the bugs might fly away. Well, another day has past and no porch frog. Yes, it seems it's moved on. I don't like picking up frogs because they are squishy. But I do love watching them and I love when they show up on my porch! :-)
____________________ "If you look for me, Maria, you will find me in the shade, wide awake or in a dream... it's hard to tell." -- from *Our Lady of The Well* |
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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WOW!!!! Look at Astrojewels new avatar!  I love the colors! Any chance Rodrigo made that for you? Or is it top secret?
____________________ "If you look for me, Maria, you will find me in the shade, wide awake or in a dream... it's hard to tell." -- from *Our Lady of The Well* |
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