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Astrojewels Super Moderator 
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I am sure most of you know about Earth hour on Saturday the 29th, but it seems to be getting a bit of a negative response from the metaphysical world, if I can use that term! Ok, what about those who are educated in the truth of our world. Earth hour was quite big here in oz this year, and yes I participated, and I turned off every appliance that was not necessary and did not put on any lights for the whole night, not just the hour. Personally I can not say I am totally ‘green’ and I see the many wrongs of the ‘green societies’, yet experiencing the drought has allowed me to think in a totally different form, I now think about the energy that I waste, is this programming or is it becoming aware of the need to respect mother nature? I live rural, so I get to see nature everyday, and sometimes I just sit and watch with amazement on how perfect everything works. I love the fact that my daughter has environmental education in her curriculum, when I was 10yrs old, I had no idea what bio-diversity meant or what a PH level was an its importance to a creek that is filled with environmental life; which is so incredibly important to everything else. So what I want to ask all of the intelligent people here on this forum, what is bad about it? What is wrong with people working together to save wasted energy? I have heard so many theories from creating us to be sheep, to doing something suspicious, so is there an alternative reason to this? Or are we beginning to actually work together for a cause that is important, because people earth is our home and what happens when she dies, and gives up the fight to all the greedy humans?
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GertrudaRose Hyperspace Warrior
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AJ, I honestly didn't know about Earth Hour till the next morning! I would have participated in a big way, and included my family, but just been too ill to be aware. I'm sorry I missed it. For years I thought I was a voice crying in the wilderness about global warming. Now the tables have turned and everyone else is getting on the global warming bandwagon while I'm pondering new evidence to the contrary. But, you know, it doesn't matter whether I believe this or that AS LONG AS I TREAT THE EARTH WITH RESPECT. As far as group efforts go, I don't think the bad beings out there are interested in picking up a group of positive, loving energy. I don't believe they can convert it or even assimilate it. Actually, I'll really stick my neck out here and say that I agree with Stephen Greer - the only beings using fear as a tool are our own governments. As long as they can keep us from working together for the good of all, THEY WIN!
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Mercy Now Hyperspace Warrior
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Like GR I wasn't aware of Earth Hour until the next morning. Unfortunately too, like GR I have been too ill to pay much attention. This was one event that I would have happily participated in. The results would have been nearly instantly visible to anyone with any sense whatsoever IMO. I don't see anything bad about it .Nor do I see anything negative about reducing our energy usage/waste whether it be gas or electric or water.Except perhaps if one owns stock in the utility or oil companies.
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Polly Tree Hugger
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Not I. I do this kind of thing anyway (conserve) without anyone having to plan it for me. For fun, I try to think up ways to conserve when I am doing stuff around the house or yard. I've been doing this for many years. Funny, the next day an article came out about how there was little reduction in electricity usage but I did not read the article. To each, his own.
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Mercy Now Hyperspace Warrior
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I do that too Polly.Thinking of ways to conserve on a daily basis nearly. On the subject of ecology ...everyone who has an inclination FEED THE BIRDS Please!! In the northern hemisphere this is the time of year they starve. Last edited on Wed Apr 2nd, 2008 03:39 pm by Mercy Now ____________________ What profit a man to gain the whole world yet loose his soul? ALL THAT YOU HAVE IS YOUR SOUL |
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Thanks everyone for the replies, I thought I might get a bit of negative, but so glad to hear you opinions, the results for us here in oz were good with the energy saved. Anybody like to share some tips on conservation, or just tips on saving energy? It is a good topic which I believe everyone should have interest in.
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Polly Tree Hugger
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I have this tendency to create games for myself and I developed this habit of being very mindful of everything I do and what the consequences are as I go about my day no matter what I happen to be engaged in. One of my goals is to be as economical as possible and not to be wasteful. Actually, it is kind of a neurotic game but it teaches me about myself. I can't finish this now. I have to go somewhere. I'm going to waste a bit of gas on a trip to the grocery store for only a few items. Lol! Last edited on Wed Apr 2nd, 2008 11:27 pm by Polly |
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PurpleParrot Hyperspace Warrior 
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Hey everyone.. I really dont know the effects of participating in what they want us to do to reduce carbon consumption,etc. I had read about Earth Hour a long while back and I had the intentions of participating in it but I didn't mark it on my calendar and I had no one to remind me. It was only until Saturday at about 8:45 p.m. EST or so..forty-five minutes into the earth hour on the west, I had seen an article online about how many countries participated in it. I felt a little bad so what I did was I told my family(we were really busy that weekend..we had cousins and relatives over with us..and I also had my weekend workshop..so those were the major reasons I forgot!!) about it..I tried to turn off all the lights in our house for an hour..so we had just two tv sets on and the internet on ..but everything else off for about ten minutes. I felt bad that I didn't get to fully experience this. But I told myself its okay that as long as I try not to use up too much electricity each day, then thats what matters. Actually, since I was a kid, I'd always walk around the house turning off the lights in rooms that people weren't occupying so that we could fix it up. I still keep that habit up--my family sometimes gets irritated because one of them will leave the lights on in their bedroom and not be in it..when I go to turn it off, they get mad at me..and I try to dissuade them into keeping it on because of finances....thats their big concern..so if they want to save up money, they can conserve energy. I'm not good with water--I used to always keep the tap water off when I brushed my teeth but sometimes I'm a little lazy about that..even with the laundry machine usage..// I have a really good friend of mine who's been an environmental activist..she has a composte in her backyard for food and she is all about recycling and reusing--she tried to get the buildings she works in to do this and thats great. She's been involved with jobs that are nature related-she's one of my friends who inspires me. Anyway, at parties, she has everyone mark their paper cups with their names so that they dont get another plastic/paper cup and waste it. I think its great. I wish I could do the same thing as well. Anyway, I try to think of her when it comes to water usage--how upset she would be if I didn't shut the tap water off for her sake!!. Do your best to recycle and reuse...like buy one of those bags that you can take to the grocery mart and use that or you can opt not to take a plastic bag or even a paper bag home! If you use plastic bags, keep them at home, use them for trash--thats what my parents do...whenever we've gotten lots of grocery items in plastic bags, we kept the bags in a storage closet and we'll use them for the smaller garbage bins in the house. Whenever you can, turn off lights and if you can, unplug electronic items that you aren't using like hairdryers,etc. Try to get items that are energy efficient--that dont use much voltage/wattage,etc. Try not to use so much water. they say you can get those light bulbs..i forget if its fluorescent or something else.. I know in India and in other parts of the world, they pour hot water into a bucket and basically use a small mug to take the water out of the bucket and splash it on themselves for showering/bathing. So thats a great way to conserve water. So if you want to go extreme, maybe instead of showering for so long and wasting gallons of h20, maybe one can keep a bucket in the bathtub and fill it up everyday with hot h20. I don't know when I'll do that here in the US though. Just keep showers to a minimum--15-20 minutes should be enough. Water is a major concern in this world too...some river basins have dried out entirely...aquifers also are being used up.. in regards to gas and solar panels...i know in some states, they reduce taxation manifold if you require solely on the usage of solar energy to power up your home...that of course by putting up solar panels on your roof!!! they also reduce taxes if you drive a hybrid car which has an engine that switches from gas to battery depending on the rate of speed you're at on the road..this enables it to efficiently use up gas,etc. you can try to conserve trips you take out on the road, give car pools to people...try other ways of mobilizing. i have friends who take the train or walk everywhere because the two main reasons are that they're green and the other is that having a car and the gas are both not affordable for them!! in the area i live in, there's no way, i can do that because bus stops are miles away from me and its not exactly that safe if i take a bike to work!!! and another thing is to outpicture a better/ideal world for everyone...see if its okay to manifest more trees, a balanced earth(if this is allowed..I mean who arewe to decide how earth takes its course here?) and more importantly outpicture evolved better people who are responsible with their thoughts/actions...keep working on yourself. there are websites like these that are interrelated--like thehungersite.com peace and love
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Well said PP, all it takes is for everyone to be aware of it, just small things make a big difference, recycling is very big here, try to purchase less items in plastic packaging and yes take your shopping bag, these carry the groceries much better anyway, we are in the process of banning plastic bags or at least bring in a charge for them so people are less inclined to use them. I don’t think I would go the bucket wash, but a 15-20 min shower would use 150 -250 litres depending on your shower head, it is suggested to keep showers between 3-7 min, its not easy but you get used to it. A quick test every person can do is take one day out of your life and evaluate the amount of water you use, take into account how many live in your home and include showers, garden, laundry, dishwasher or hand washing, toilets (depending on what type of toilet you have, you can use up to 12 litres per flush), it is always surprising to see the result. If anyone is up for it I like to see the results.
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DreamTime Here I Be 
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Well, I may have missed that Earth hour, but I have been doing little things for many years now. I have not used a dishwasher since before 2000. I hand wash our dishes in a small, one sink. My showers are only between 5 and 10 minutes, and I do not take a shower every day. I have never left the water on when I brush my teeth...I can't believe that people really do that. I fill a small cup with water, brush my teeth, rinse my mouth, then turn the water on to wash off my toothbrush. We have all compact fluorescents in our house - even though they can be a toxic hazard if they should break. So, I think, in my small way I am doing my share also.
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Richard Seeker 
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"Kill-Yourself-For-The-Earth Day" By Henry Makow Ph.D. March 30, 2008 At 8 p.m. on March 29, millions of people around the world obeyed Big Brother and shut off their lights for an hour to "conserve energy and fight climate change." Organized by the elite World Wildlife Fund, "Earth Hour" was a psy-op designed to remind us we are a burden on the ecosystem. The event was organized by an elite who represent one percent of the world's population yet own over 40% of the resources. From the elite perspective, we're superfluous- the real message of 'Earth Hour." Have they ever done anything to celebrate human life? If we are energy challenged, it is because the Illuminati banking cartel has been suppressing non-polluting free-energy technology for almost a century. At the same time, this cartel has been fomenting wasteful and tragic wars. Why not end war for the sake of the Earth? How about Al Gore's record on the use of weaponized depleted uranium? Millions of people in 26 countries participated on March 29. Whole city skylines went dark. What better symbol of the New World Order! Corporations dutifully obeyed their major shareholders. Even Google darkened its banner. "It's a way for people to stand up in a positive way, not just feel guilty about it," explains Josh Laughren of World Wildlife Fund-Canada. "But if this begins and ends with Earth Hour and we go back to ordinary life...it will not have been a success. There are ways we can all reduce our carbon footprint to ensure every hour in future is Earth Hour." A MODEST PROPOSAL If people feel they are such a burden, why not kill themselves? Is there a more effective way to say you care about the planet? Erase your "carbon footprint" altogether. We will need some time to get our affairs in order, and say our goodbyes, but perhaps next Spring, the World Wildlife Fund could sponsor a "Kill-Yourself-for-the-Earth Day." Families, companies, cities and countries could offer sacrifices to the Environmental God. With proper promotion, millions might volunteer. Why dither with symbolic gestures when we can make a real difference? As former US vice-president Al Gore said last year in accepting the Nobel Peace Prize: "We are what is wrong and we must make it right!" No, Al Gore. You and your Illuminati henchmen are the problem. Please consider my modest proposal. http://www.henrymakow.com/next_kill_yourself_for_the_ear.html
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GertrudaRose Hyperspace Warrior
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Reminds me that The Humanist Manifesto talks about drastic reductions in Earth population as a solution. It didn't work well in China, though, did it? Now they have all these sons growing up and no duaghters for them to marry. So if we care about the global warming on Earth, why does nobody mention the warming on Mars or the other planets orbiting our Sun? What is causing the warming on the other planets?
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Polly Tree Hugger
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I like reading Henry's articles. This subject about people feeling we need to get rid of ourselves to save the planet was discussed on Coast the other nght. I happened to catch a bit of the repeat last night. Alex Jones was on talking about what Ted Turner said about needing to reduce the population. Of course, Ted Turner is sucking up many times his share of the resources on this planet. Lol! http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/april2008/030408_b_turner.htm The idea that the planet needs saving was a big theme in so-called alien abductions for years. I tend to think the planet does not need to be saved. This planet can boot us off at anytime and regenerate itself like it has done before. Back in my environ[mental] days of the 80's and early 90's, I used to feel this way (humans were a scourge on the planet and needed to be removed) as I was symbolically bleeding daily for the earth and how poorly I believed it was being treated. My perspective has certainly changed since then. Correction: I made a booboo. Alex Jones was on Coast last night. I wasn't too awake when I caught a bit of last night's show after being asleep for a while and wakening. I didn't look at the clock. I had been listening to some of the prior night's show before I went to bed. Last edited on Fri Apr 4th, 2008 04:01 pm by Polly |
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Interesting article Richard, I agree with some of it, but I don’t believe earth hour was designed for us to think we are a burden, anyone who is even slightly eco aware understands that mother nature is the second most diverse force in our life, the universe being number one. Polly, I agree that the earth does not need saving yet, but it certainly needs nurturing. I can only tell you from a perspective of my country, and that we are becoming very environmentally educated and aware of the small things that we should all be doing. I personally see that as a positive because at the end of the day, if the trees, bees and birds die, we will not be able to survive. GR, I might start a bit of conflict here but I agree that the world is overpopulated but no I don’t believe they should be killed off, and I don’t have the solution, but there are many parents out there that should not be parents.
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GertrudaRose Hyperspace Warrior
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Okay, I'll stick my neck out even more! If the intelligent, educated people are wise enough to reduce the number of children they bear, and the uneducated, less fortunate people have lots of children, where are we going? When I was younger we understood that there is a reason to put off sex (not much birth control available then) until there is a stable family for children. We loved our future children enough to put off sex. At least, that was considered the best way, even if some of us failed. If you got pregnant out of wedlock, you were expected to put the baby up for adoption. It was considered very selfish to choose to raise it in a single-parent, impoverished environment. This was also because we loved the child more than what it pained us to give it up.
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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GR, It is one of those topics where emotional opinions always conquer and I don’t see any resolution, and people have no idea what it takes to raise a child until they have one, and it does not take long for the baby to grow and then the parents go back to their own life plus kids! There are so many systems in the world that encourage one parent families to enhance the agenda and we in Australia probably offer the worst temptation- money, yes Australians get paid to have babies. So at the end of the day and in 2008 we have thousands of girls, and I say girls, because they are all under age having babies to get the baby bonus. But who am I to say this, I am sure there are many young devoted mothers. There are kids born into a life with money, but still feel unloved, every situation has children that have something to say. Money does not make a home, it just makes a lifestyle. Sticking my neck out, I can only say that educated people think about the consequences and requirements of a child, and people that are less fortunate do not, but that is not to say they can not offer the child just as much. Personally I love babies and could have had ten, but I could not offer them a lifestyle, one on one time and patience, how do you do that with so many?
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Mercy Now Hyperspace Warrior
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I've been around the super rich and the highly educated and I've been around the other end of the spectrum. I can say without a doubt that unless one is mentally handicapped education and money does not necessarily make for better parenting. Money and /or connections do provide the ability/means to compensate for parental shortcomings and the consequences of such ,but in my experience it is only a cover up. The problem is rarely dealt with honestly. This is not to say being poor and uneducated is better either.I don't know the answer but I do know that when society can get over it's fascination of gold , glitter and bigger and invest in more substantial and lasting substance such as heart and soul we will all benefit. IMO we need to break the spell of glamour. (in the literal sense of the word) Last edited on Sat Apr 5th, 2008 01:51 am by Mercy Now ____________________ What profit a man to gain the whole world yet loose his soul? ALL THAT YOU HAVE IS YOUR SOUL |
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spiritvoyager Hyperspace Warrior
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This is the first I've heard of Earth Hour. Interesting. The idea reminds me of the quiet and peaceful energy that ensues when the power goes out in the neighborhood - or the feeling of being off the grid, when camping in the wilderness. As a child, I participated in the first Earth Day at my school and have been a compulsive recycler, reuser, conserver, for years. This year, I noticed that two of my up to now can't get a clue siblings had actually made small efforts to reuse/recycle. (I was the changeling in a family of pod people.) Now, if we can get people focused on effective green alternative energy options that have been suppressed by the NWO, we would really accomplish something. I missed a lot in the last week from being ill too. What's up with so many being incapacitated recently?
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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I totally agree MN, and I have no idea on how to stop it globally, it is a problem. I don’t think anyone will disagree with what you say about parenting. I also know really good parents with terrible children, there are so many situations when it comes to the family unit. Spiritvoyager, I hope you are feeling better, glad to see you are earth aware, that is all it takes, there are no specific requirements or dedication, does your local council provide recycling bins? Or are products labeled to display whether they are made from a recycled material? It is small things that always make a difference. So what other suggestions do you have for people to become earth aware?
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PurpleParrot Hyperspace Warrior
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several years ago, when I was taking an intro class on international studies, one of the core issues the class had to discuss was on population density on earth and how it is a huge factor on many of the problems we have on global scale. Poverty, widespread disease(making it no so easy to eradicate all diseases like they did with polio..i dont know if any cases have ever showed up since then!), pollution, starvation, war and strife, etc...all these things have a lot to do with the increase of people... for example an idea that my professor brought up(which wasn't exactly novel at the time) was what if every single person in india and china(the two most heavily populated places on earth, aside from Japan, the US and Russia,etc..i dont know the exact rankings/the current global census is...etc) had driven a car or had an air conditioner and a freezer...thats not good for the people, the environment,etc.. population--i can't stress how much it affects our problems on this planet.. 1 billion people in china...and 1 billion in india? eeks!!! how do people live--distribute everything...and still have needs met---and still manage to become superpowers--unofficially is it?? maybe it could be managed...but when you think about it.. i thought about it over the years..i do love children, i would love to have had my own but because i know i want to live and enjoy somethings about my life...and things aren't good here..its hard to be there for oneself in my eyes...let alone be there for another.the way i see it..and it might be narrowminded..i think one needs to be balanced to understand how to be there for themselves...so that they know how to be there for themselvs and the children they plan on having.. i think its hard to just be there for yourself..to afford a single persons life--financially, energetically, physically and emotionally..even spiritually...and all the things in it..thats a lot..and then to contribute to another...thats even more.. parenting--it seems to be natural and fit for people--yet a struggle for many...even th ones who handle themselves well--..but i logically thought not me..i dont want to have a child only because i'm not mentally, emotionally willing or even prepared to do something like that....i knwo i can be a good parent but not in todays world..todays world is so trying and complicated. besides there's so many people on this planet...i'm not sure how or where humanity is going..do we need more people on this earth than there already are??? too many people , too many issues, too many needs, too many conflicts,... overpopulation does lead to pollution...if not handled properly..especially with so many developing nations...who need to kinda go through industry to technologically enhance themselves.......... i'm sure there are many scrambling around trying to find asolution...or not just bothering and raking in what they can get...or worse..sittin back and enjoying the show..and waiting for the rest of us to do something else... i hope its not crying havoc!!! i believe everything will be okay...in these dire times. lol peace and love
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