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 Posted: Wed Jul 30th, 2008 12:36 am
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By ROBERT JABLON, Associated Press Writer
1 minute ago

The strongest earthquake to strike a populated area of Southern California in more than a decade rattled windows and chandeliers, made buildings sway and sent people running into the streets on Tuesday. But there were no immediate reports of serious injuries or major damage.

The 5.4-magnitude quake — considered moderate — was felt from Los Angeles to San Diego, and as far east as Las Vegas, 230 miles away. Nearly 30 aftershocks quickly followed, the largest estimated at 3.8.

The quake was centered 29 miles southeast of downtown Los Angeles near Chino Hills, a San Bernardino County city of 80,000 built mostly in the early 1990s with the latest in earthquake-resistant technology.

Buildings swayed in downtown Los Angeles for several seconds, leading to the evacuation of some offices.

"I'm still shaking. My knees are wobbling. I thought the building might collapse," said Rosana Martinez, 50, who works in a fifth-floor office at the California National Bank in downtown Los Angeles.

As strong as it felt, Tuesday's quake was far less powerful than the deadly magnitude-6.7 Northridge earthquake that topped bridges and buildings on Jan. 17, 1994. That was the last damaging temblor in Southern California, though not the biggest. A 7.1 quake struck the desert in 1999.

The earthquake had about 1 percent of the energy of the Northridge quake, said Thomas Heaton, director of the earthquake engineering and research laboratory at the California Institute of Technology.

"People have forgotten, I think, what earthquakes feel like," said Kate Hutton, a seismologist at Caltech. "So I think we should probably look at it as an earthquake drill. ... It's a drill for the `Big One' that will be coming some day."

Disneyland visitor Clint Hendrickson, 32, said he was in the Golden Horseshoe theater watching a show when the temblor hit.

"The ground moved and the chandelier started shaking," he said. "We are from Texas and we thought it was part of the show, until people started yelling, 'Get under the tables!'"

Attractions at Disneyland and Disney's California Adventure theme parks and at the Knott's Berry Farm theme park were temporarily closed for inspections after the shaking.

The quake interrupted a meeting of the Los Angeles City Council, causing the 27-story City Hall to sway just as Councilman Dennis Zine was criticizing a plan to increase trash fees.

"And there goes the earthquake — earthquake, earthquake, earthquake!" said Zine, as members of the audience began to cry out. "The building is rolling!"

California's Office of Emergency Services received scattered reports of minor infrastructure damage, including broken water mains and gas lines.

"Nothing serious enough to be an immediate threat to lives, but there is some disruption to utility service," spokesman Kelly Huston said. The damage was in the greater Los Angeles area.

Minor structural damage was reported throughout Los Angeles, along with five minor injuries and people stuck in elevators, said City Councilwoman Wendy Greuel, serving as acting mayor. She said there was flooding in one department store.

The California Department of Transportation and California Highway Patrol were assessing freeways to check for damage. Traffic appeared to be flowing easily, however.

"I think we were very lucky with this one," Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said.

The jolt caused a fire but no injuries at a Southern California Edison electrical substation in La Habra, about 12 miles southwest of the epicenter, spokesman Paul Klein said. Damage there and to other equipment led to some power outages in Chino Hills, Chino, Diamond Bar and Pomona, he said.

Near the epicenter, all the customers of a Chino Hills Starbucks ran outside and bags of coffee beans fell off shelves, worker Jamie Saleh said.

"It was very, very strong. It was rolling and ... there wasn't a pause," said Saleh, 24. "It came on really strong and just kept going."

Chino Hills was incorporated in 1991, so much of the construction is newer and built to modern safety standards, said city spokeswoman Denise Cattern. She said there were no reports of harm in the city of 80,000, although cell phone service in the area was disrupted. The biggest employer in town, the school district, is out of session.

"At this point, the biggest impact we can report is getting through on cell phones. ... And a few little rattled nerves," Cattern said.

"It was dramatic. The whole building moved and it lasted for a while," said Los Angeles County sheriff's spokesman Steve Whitmore, who was in the sheriff's suburban Monterey Park headquarters east of Los Angeles.

In Orange County, about 2000 detectives were attending gang conference at a Marriott hotel in Anaheim when a violent jolt shook the main conference room.

Mike Willever, who was at the hotel, said, "First we heard the ceiling shaking, then the chandelier started to shake, then there was a sudden movement of the floor."

Chris Watkins, from San Diego, said he previously felt several earthquakes, but "that was one of the worst ones."

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Associated Press writers Thomas Watkins, John Rogers, Don Thompson, Gillian Flaccus, Alicia Chang, Michael Blood, Solvej Schou and Danny Pollock contributed to this report.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080729/ap_on_re_us/california_earthquake&printer=1;_ylt=Atex3PF6XmQ1zxf0cuvLk5dH2ocA

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The earthquake was fast. I felt a sudden movement of the floor too. Then the window went bang right next to me. Then less rapid and powerful waves followed.

My parents who were taking the bus, did not feel anything. It didn't feel serious, but it is certainly more powerful than the earthquakes when I was younger. Los Angeles homes are bult to withstand earthquakes though. We get a lot of them.

I have a feeling the super quake will be linked to the Yosemite super-volcano. If the super earthquake hits Los Angeles, that means the super vocalno is erupting, then the entire US will be in trouble. They should see if there will be a correlation. They're treating them both as separate incidents.

When the Yosemite super-volcano blows, there will be a "three day of darkness" because of ashes in the sky. Mostly the entire US would die from poisoning. The last major catastrophe was the asteroid impact that created the Biblical Great Flood and brought the last Ice Age to an end (killing off the Dinosaurs but not some of the proto-humans that lived along them).

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This quake does make me wonder if the big one is coming. I thought this one news story was interesting symbolism.

California to be wiped off Russia’s map
 
28.07.2008 Source: Pravda.Ru URL: http://english.pravda.ru/russia/105904-california-0

Deputies of Russia’s Nizhni Novgorod region intend to liquidate several settlements in the region, including the village of California.

Vladimir Gryzhin, an official of the Sechenovsky district, where the village is situated, said that the village of California was a deserted settlement, which had absolutely no perspectives for development since there was not even a power line in California.

Another official of the district, Vladimir Osokin, advised Gryzhin should ask the US Senate for help to recreate California.

California’s last residents moved to the village of Lipovka in the beginning of the 1990s. Nevertheless, the village of California was left on the map and still has its zip code, Lenta.ru reports.

There are several variants to explain the existence of the settlement with such an unusual name in Russia. One of them says that a local landowner visited the USA in the second half of the 19th century and subsequently renamed one of his villages to California.

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Frightening symbolism, Richard.

How many members in this site are from California? What are your plans? Has anyone mapped out which are the safest places in the USA in case of catastrophic occurences in California or Yosemite ? Has anyone done a disaster-survival study?

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Yes, very chilling.  :?  I hope this does not come to pass.  There are so many people that live in California.



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Disaster Earthquake Scenario Unveiled for Southern California

Scientists today unveiled a hypothetical Scenario describing how a magnitude 7.8 Southern California earthquake —similar to the recent earthquake in China— would impact the region, causing loss of lives and massive damage to infrastructure, including critical transportation, power, and water systems.

In the Scenario, the earthquake would kill 1800 people, injure 50,000, cause $200 billion in damage, and have long-lasting social and economic consequences. This is the most comprehensive analysis ever of what a major Southern California earthquake would mean, and is the scientific framework for what will be the largest earthquake preparedness drill in California history, scheduled for November 13, 2008.

http://online.wr.usgs.gov/ocw/htmlmail/2008/May/22/20080522GSnr.html

Southern Californians Urged to Join Largest Earthquake Drill in U.S. History
Released: 7/30/2008 5:33:46 PM   

The magnitude 5.4 earthquake that rocked southern California on July 29, 2008, is about 5,000 times smaller than the magnitude 7.8 earthquake depicted in the "ShakeOut Earthquake Scenario." This new report is a portrayal of what could happen in a major earthquake on the southern end of the San Andreas Fault. The scenario is the basis of the Great Southern California ShakeOut, a week of special events featuring the largest earthquake drill in U.S. history on November 13, 2008.   Details are at http://www.ShakeOut.org.

"Yesterday's earthquake was a wake-up call - a reminder to us to make the important changes we need to survive the inevitable," said Dr. Lucy Jones, of the U.S. Geological Survey, who led the group of over 300 experts who detailed the expected consequences of a hypothetical magnitude 7.8 earthquake that starts at the Salton Sea and ruptures northward along the San Andreas fault for 190 miles.

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1983

http://quake.usgs.gov/recenteqs/



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Hi evryone, in reply to iqhunk's question: I used to live in Orange County, SoCal until last month. Moved away since. I still have close firends and a couple of family members there, but they don't believe these warnings are that serious. They keep saying that they will deal with it when it comes - why do people insist on wearing those rose-colored glasses?


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Thanks Blue Oracle. That information comes from a credible source. My friends scoff at that idea. My parents don't believe that the recent earthquake is 5,000 times. And I don't have old money. So I'm staying here for financial reasons. If I make enough new money, I might move out.

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Thanks EmeraldStar. Folk like you are an inspiration. Many are stuck in California purely for financial reasons, like SI. I have more than 30 relatives in California and they cannot even begin to think about leaving. I was there in 2002 and it just did not feel right.
On the other hand, Minneapolis in Minnesota felt just great.

If I were an American, I would consider moving to Minnesota. It is the only state according to FEMA (http://www.fema.gov/kids/eqstate.htm , pls beware of the bright yellow borders) that has zero earthquake activity and has access to a great lake. It is a safe distance away from both coasts and from Yosemite. Pls post what everyone else think to be safe havens. We never know how many will stumble on to our posts and make a choice to save their families.

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iqhunk,

You frequently refer to Yosemite as being volcanic. Do you mean to say Yellowstone? Yosemite is in California ,Yellowstone is Montana,Wyoming,Idaho.

From my understanding a good indicator that things are going to go belly up to a much larger degree is the eruption of Mt. Popo in Mexico .


It has been said for a verrrry long time ,before false prophets, that SoCal is fragile. Staying for financial reasons can be due to fear and leaving due to fear. I know some that stay for LOVE. Their loved ones can't or won't leave so they stay . LOVE.

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Yes, I was referring to the Yellowstone, thanks for correcting. Had not heard of Mt Popo before.

Lets hope that the catastrophe is minimal because of those who stay on for love's sake.

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I agree that this was a warning for what is to come, because life always presents some type of forewarning, it is incredibly difficult to take the advice of a warning because the conscious mind does not accept this form of information.

To correctly predict when this will happen, all things must be evaluated, the scientific view, which has already been confirmed and they have given a time frame of 30 years to be safe I am sure, as scientists do not like to cross the line of ‘psychic predictions’ and most psychics say it will happen before 2012, to keep the strong focus on that particular year.

The collective pattern of thought must be analyzed, the financial situation of this state, the overall feeling of its citizens, the evidence is there that California sits on a fragile fault line, the warnings are present.

SI, you live there, do you like it? How is the energy? If you were more financial where would you move? I only spent 3 days there, and I liked the vibe of the fast pace for a change, however I was incredibly drained by the cloud of darkness that I felt, and like many cities in the US, I found that people do not look at each other, they walk incredibly fast, like they are trying to escape or get home quick because something might happen. Is this everywhere?

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"however I was incredibly drained by the cloud of darkness that I felt, and like many cities in the US, I found that people do not look at each other, they walk incredibly fast, like they are trying to escape or get home quick because something might happen. Is this everywhere?"

Yea. That's northern and southern California. I walk fast myself but not to escape from anyone. I'm just use to it. I think people here are used to it too.

People don't talk to each other because we have a larger personal space. We're use to driving back and forth between places, separated from the rest of the people by our cars, so we're use to that space away from others.

At night in my neighborhood's boulevard, it is lit very bright, but most businesses are close and the streets are nearly empty. I'm not sure about Hollywood or Downtown because they are popular destinations. I imagine they get empty at around 1am because there are parking signs that say no parking start at around that time and into the morning.

If I were more financial, I would move away from the west coast for my safety. But if it weren't for the Andreas fault or the Yellowstone's supervolcano, I would stay in California because there is so much stimulation: live festivals, lifestyle/job opportunities, material possessions, etc. I'd feel bored living near farms with nothing except plows and a few stores that meet my basic living needs. I know because I tried that to some extent.

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get the heck outta dodge son. you got a thumb, use it.

it's very easy to set up a new life, in a new location, with income and shelter.

just be careful if you take the bus, you might end up headless.



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"just be careful if you take the bus, you might end up headless."

lol. You've been watching the news.

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I agree with SilverInfinity. I lived in SoCal for three years and everything is just so accessible. There are more of a mixture of races and food/restaurants/ethnic stores. If it weren't for the rising rent and unfriendly/snobbish/angry people, I would have stayed on. People are easily triggered by the slightest thing and always in a hurry even if they are not running late. They drive dangerously though most roads are wide and spacious; they get angry easily over minor inconveniences and the finger is not common from another driver. Where I lived isn't even a real city, just a nice town with lots to offer - material-wise. The feel of SoCal is weird, at times dark if you really observe. And one can feel the place and its people are heading toward a bad time - due to the collective mind-patterns.

People are, generally, unhappy, discontented and petty. Does not help that there are a lot of 'air-heads' too. Ignorant, unrealistic and more concerned with getting a tan and associating with only people exactly with identical concerns as themselves.

I cannot say that where I am now will be completely safe - no place is. But I was greatly relieved once I was out of CA. A load off, really. Now if only the rest of my family members would move. I also have a niece in Florida - so more worries for me there.

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Major Staged 'Event' Before November Elections?

[Editor's Note: This was forwarded to me by Pam Schuffert. I'm no longer inclined to get too pumped up over calamitous prophetic dreams or channeled information about coming Doom & Gloom events in the near future, but I don't ignore them either. Don Nicoloff had told me 4 or 5 months ago that he feels something will occur in early September, prior to the election. We just had a modest earthquake in southern California on July 29. Judging from the talking heads on TV and radio, we are told that we can expect the "Big One" any day now. That's tells me that they're PLANNING to engineer a major quake in southern California, much as they used Tesla earthquake technology to precipitate the Sichuan earthquake in China in May (have no doubt that tornadoes, earthquakes, and hurricanes {or typhoons} can be manufactured to fit a covert, manipulative agenda. They've been doing it for DECADES (the Soviet Union caused the massive earthquake in central China in the late 1960s that killed over 1/2 million people. Red China and the Soviet Union were having border skirmishes along the Mongolian/Soviet border and Russia wanted to send a clear message as to who was going to come out on top).

As to the nature of the next staged event from our domestic Corp of Treasoneers following their 911 production, I can only guess. There may be multiple locations the next time around. I think they'd like to pop off a few tactical nukes at power stations or nuclear power plants or refineries or at symbolic monuments to shock the nation into panic and create the pretext for martial law, but I'm not altogether sure that friendly aliens are going to allow that to happen. They have stopped our covert mischief makers in the past (that's the REAL reason we haven't had another "terrorist attack" since 911, not becasue of the splendid efforts from our domestic goons running Homeland Insecurity) and there's no reason to think that they wouldn't stop them again. So if there are buildings or monuments to be blown up, it will more likely be conventional explosives, rather than nukes (hey, Thermite seemed to do a fair job on the Twin Towers; so why not stick with a proven winner!). The Bird Flu "pandemic" is another card they certainly wish to play, but I don't think that the "pandemic' rountine is going to fly either; for the same reason that the SARS "pandemic" never got off the ground in 2004. There are friendly forces (human and otherwise) working behind the scenes that are defusing these nefarious plans, quietly and without fanfare-much as the Sylphs have been doing in clearing up the skies of chemtrails in the past few years. Keep the faith. To quote a baseball legend from New York: "The show ain't over till the fat lady sings." . ...Ken Adachi]

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/plannedcrisis31jul08.shtml
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EmeraldStar wrote: I agree with SilverInfinity. I lived in SoCal for three years and everything is just so accessible. There are more of a mixture of races and food/restaurants/ethnic stores. If it weren't for the rising rent and unfriendly/snobbish/angry people, I would have stayed on. People are easily triggered by the slightest thing and always in a hurry even if they are not running late. They drive dangerously though most roads are wide and spacious; they get angry easily over minor inconveniences and the finger is not common from another driver. Where I lived isn't even a real city, just a nice town with lots to offer - material-wise. The feel of SoCal is weird, at times dark if you really observe. And one can feel the place and its people are heading toward a bad time - due to the collective mind-patterns.

People are, generally, unhappy, discontented and petty. Does not help that there are a lot of 'air-heads' too. Ignorant, unrealistic and more concerned with getting a tan and associating with only people exactly with identical concerns as themselves.

I cannot say that where I am now will be completely safe - no place is. But I was greatly relieved once I was out of CA. A load off, really. Now if only the rest of my family members would move. I also have a niece in Florida - so more worries for me there.


Thanks Emeraldstar, this gives a good explanation of the energy of California, and I agree that no matter where you live something could happen, but some places are safer than others. LA was the first place I had ever experienced so much pollution, I don’t know how people live without air! But they say Beijing is 20 times worse! it is simple things like breathing that contribute to the overall pattern of a city, town or country.

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Friends in SoCal tell me the place is crawling with hybrids. Reptoids.  One friend was out on the beach the other day with his boys and some dude just tackled him from behind. Blindsighted. My buddy kept his cool and asked "Why ?"  Mean guy replied that he was lucky  as he wanted to kick his ass.??? Mean guys heavily tattoed friends were laughing.

My friend feels I'm very lucky to live rurally.

THANK GOD I"M A COUNTRY GIRL!! :D

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