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Up to 200 made ill by 'fumes' from meteor by John Pickrell
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Polly Tree Hugger
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I noted what the Space Weather website has to say about this: http://www.spaceweather.com PERUVIAN METEORITE: There is much discussion on the Internet today concerning a reported meteorite impact in Peru which may have gouged a 10- to 30-meter wide crater. Bad-smelling fumes from the crater are said to have sickened dozens and perhaps hundreds of people in a nearby village. Could this be true? There is indeed a hole in the ground in Peru, pictured above, and by all accounts it smells bad, but it is not likely of cosmic origin. In order to blast a 30-meter crater, a meteorite would have to hit the ground with about as much energy as 1 kiloton of TNT--akin to a tactical nuclear weapon. This would leave a clear signal in worldwide seismic and infrasound records, but so far no such signals are being reported by authorities. In short, we remain unconvinced. Stay tuned for updates. Link to story and picture: http://www.guardian.co.uk/space/article/0,,2171920,00.html
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Richard Seeker
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It sounds like we have a mystery. 
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Richard Seeker
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Scientist Confirms Meteorite in Puno, Peru is a Chondrite (LIP-ir) -- Peru's official government news agency reported this afternoon that scientists which went to the town of Carancas in the Region of Puno, Peru, have confirmed that the glowing object which fell from the sky on Saturday afternoon was indeed a meteorite. Volcanologist for Peru's Geological, Mining and Metallurgical Institute (INGEMMET), Luisa Macedo, confirmed that a chondrite meteorite had caused the 17 meter (55 foot) wide and 5 meter (16 foot) deep crater when it landed on earth. It was reported that with the help of the Desaguadero Municipality, the water would be drained out of the crater to establish the exact size of the hole that was made by the chondrite meteorite. Macedo explained that the chondrite was not radioactive and did not have any toxic gases or substances which could be harmful to peoples health. On the other hand, Macedo stated that it had not yet been established if the water supply in the province of Chucuito had been contaminated or not. Aside from the analysis Macedo is performing, the National University of Altiplano, Peru's Nuclear Energy Institute, the National Institute of Natural Resources, the Ministry of Health and a Bolivian university are all taking part in the analysis of the area. http://www.livinginperu.com/news-4730-environmentnature-scientist-confirms-meteorite-in-puno-peru-is-a-chondrite
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD 
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Richard wrote: It sounds like we have a mystery. A chemical bomb test disguised as a meteor. :think:
____________________ "I heard the music, and I wrote to it. Some people beat drums. Some people strum guitars. It’s all in the music you hear." - HST |
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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From Pravda: Russian Military Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that one of the United States most secretive spy satellites, the KH-13, targeting Iran was 'destroyed in its orbit' with its main power generator powered by the radioactive isotope Pu-238 surviving re-entry and crashing in a remote region of the South American Nation of Peru, and where hundreds are reported to be ill from radiation poisoning. Link to story :think:
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Richard Seeker
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That’s interesting, thanks for the info Sily.
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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Richard, did you notice how many "13's" in my last post?
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Avatar Hyperspace Warrior 
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To even begin to speculate about what may or may not have caused the Peruvian Meteorite is really not something to become to absorbed in, because many forums across the Internet have many posters speculating about 'strange events' occurring in our Solar System and therefore the Peruvian Meteorite is just another piece of speculation. What is known is the Kuiper Belt Aliens have been in our Solar System for at least 25 years, but in much smaller numbers and then after 1992, their 'star ships' in the Outer Solar System began to massively grow in number. Currently orbiting Saturn there is a KBA 'space ship' that is 8500 KM in length and 5000 KM in width. Plus you are all aware of the strange, metallic ovaloid object orbiting inside and outside of the orbit of Pluto, that is 1800 KM in length and 800 KM at its widest point.
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Richard Seeker
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Sily, that’s interesting about all those 13s. It’s strange how they turn up everywhere. One things that puzzles me is they claim scientist confirmed the object is a meteorite. So that means if it is a satellite, then the scientist are lying. It will be interesting to see if more info comes out as time goes on.
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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I don't feel a connection to thirteens. Eleven's seem to be my thing. Yesterday my receipt for lunch came to eleven:eleven.  But thirteens sure was in that post above a lot and the news, just like you have said many times before.The story of the meteor in Peru is very interesting to me. I like thinking about possibilities for causes. It's my brain's entertainment for the day. With the bright lights seen just before their massive earthquake a month ago and now the massive stinkin', flamin', glowing, illness-inspiring"debris" that fell from the sky in Carancas..... I'm thinking what the heck is UP with Peru? Avatar, you have great information. I have heard of the Kuiper Belt Aliens, but not in the great detail you just provided. Do you know of any aliens that take the form of insects? The reason I ask is in August I saw two insects which were very strange and did not look like they should have been from this planet.
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Richard Seeker
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This story gets stranger and stranger. Here’s a news story where they think it was a scud missile. Peru crater: meteorite, secret satellites and zombies by Mori Despite some initial skepticism, which suggested the huge crater found on September 15 in Peru could be the result of other phenomena, local scientists confirmed this Tuesday that it was indeed caused by a meteorite. According to José Macharé, of the Institute of Geology, “soon after the first observations made in the spot we verified that it was a rock meteorite … if definitely is a meteorite”, he told AFP (shorter version in English here). He further noted that “it seems that the meteorite fell and heated the water, making it boil for ten minutes and mixing it with the soil (which may have sulfur and arsenic in low concentrations), liberating a grey vapor, whose components we still don’t know about”. That could explain the much reported illnesses described both by locals and even some local authorities that visited the place. Furthermore, engineer Renán Ramírez, of the Peruvian Institute of Nucelar Energy, assured that there is no abnormal radioation in the area. Like Macharé he suggested the illnesses may have been caused by the fumes coming from the heat generated by the impact boiling the water in the soil. It’s probably not related to the meteorite itself. But this whole ongoing story sure sparked a lot of interest. Among many wild speculations, one of the most curious was aired by WDIM: American Spy Satellite Downed In Peru As US Nuclear Attack On Iran Thwarted Russian Military Intelligence Analysts are reporting today that one of the United States most secretive spy satellites, the KH-13, targeting Iran was ‘destroyed in its orbit’ with its main power generator powered by the radioactive isotope Pu-238 surviving re-entry and crashing in a remote region of the South American Nation of Peru, and where hundreds are reported to be ill from radiation poisoning. Western media reports are stating that the US spy satellite debris hitting Peru was caused by a meteor … Most astonishing about these reports, however, are that they state that it was the Americans themselves who destroyed their own spy satellite with the attack upon it being made by the United States Air Forces’ 30th Space Wing located at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. As reported above, there is in fact no abnormal radiation readings in the area, and multiple different institutions and local experts analyzing the site agree that it was a meteorite. The WDIM website is full of similarly unsupported claims. Related to it, some days before the Peruvian meteorite, James Oberg had pointed in the Whispers list a crater in Kazakhstan that was actually man-made, though not intentional: A Proton/Breeze M rocket, carrying the JCSAT-11 comsat for JSAT Corp. of Tokyo, Japan, blasted off from Baikonur Cosmodrome on Sept. 6, 2007. The launch vehicle’s second stage failed to separate, and one of the engines on the rocket had not functioned properly, leading to the termination of the flight at T+135 seconds, as vehicle was 76 kilometers above the Earth surface. The failed rocket impacted in an uninhabited area, resulting in explosion and several fires in the grasslands, however it caused no casualties or property damage. A disinfecting group arrived to the impact site, discovering two or three fragments estimated at 400 kilograms in mass, according to Kazakh officials. It was estimated that at the moment of the crash, the remnants of the rocket still contained 218 tons and 979 kilograms of toxic propellant. The main impact crater was estimated to be 20 meters deep and 45 meters in diameter. [source] Bigger than the Peruvian crater. So, space junk is interesting, but as everyone pointed out, nothing beats space zombies. UPDATE: Phil Plait suggests the Peruvian crater may have been actually the result of a Scud missile, which the Peruvian government is rumored to have obtained. Well, that’s a much more reasonable speculation than a nuclear ultra-secret American satellite. But I don’t know. All those scientists would have to be part of the “conspiracy”, and the Scud missile would have to have created one hell of a explosion. More than 200 tons of propellant created the 45m crater in Kazakhstan. The Peruvian crater has 30 meters, and though it does resemble the Kazakh one, a Scud missile has a launch weight of some few tons, and a warhead of less than a ton. It’s more interesting than mere space junk, surely. http://forgetomori.com/2007/skepticism/peru-crater-meteorite-secret-satellites-and-zombies
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Avatar Hyperspace Warrior
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Richard that is a brilliant article you have posted and yes the information you provide is very, very interesting indeed. Sometime very strange happened with the Peruvian Meteorite. Whether it is the Kuiper Belt Aliens who blasted the Andes, no one really knows but the developments so far concerning the KBA in our Solar System, are very interesting to observe. Sily, there is an Insectian Group that is connected to the Draconian Reptilians and the Rigelian Greys, sometimes called the Mantians, and they look like a gold coloured, giant version of the Preying Mantis. The Mantians are known to be highly intelligent and actually are neither good or evil.
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William Moderator 
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Over 20 years ago I was told from someone seeing Preying Mantis beings. But im not sure if he saw them in a vision or physical? Maybe the Meteor was a test shot ? I know im gonna go home and watch some movies.... LIke the blob... And the Thing!  Thanks for all the info Avatar, and Richard.... I just dont know why the Aliens just dont shoot a massive Meteor filled with laughing gas? ooooo add the Killer clowns from outer space to my list!
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Avatar Hyperspace Warrior
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LOL. Well said William!
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD
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William wrote: ...a massive Meteor filled with laughing gas... When that meteor happens, I would like to be notified. I'm gonna be on that meteor like white on rice.
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Polly Tree Hugger
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Here's what is being reported now: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070921-meteor-peru.html
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Avatar Hyperspace Warrior
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It would be great to see some verification on whether or not the Peruvian Meteorite is connected to the presence in our Solar System of the KBA or not.
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Richard Seeker
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I found the Zeta Talk explanation for the Peru meteor interesting. I know many will say it’s disinfo but I still found it interesting even if it is disinfo.  ZetaTalk: Peru Meteor Sickness ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS OFFERRED BELOW: We have explained that the tail of Planet X, when it wafts the Earth during the pole shift, drops the components of petrochemicals onto the Earth, sometimes while aflame. These petrochemical components have been gathered into the tail during the many passages by Planet X through the Asteroid Belt in the past. These petrochemicals are also the basis of oil deposits on Earth. The Asteroid Belt was once about two dozen planets, most of them water planets, which were pelted to pieces during these times. The water from these water planets was slung about and became the dirty snowballs humans call comets that sling past the Sun periodically. The magma from these shattered planets of course became the Asteroid Belt. But there was more than water and rock that was disbursed. There was life, components of life, as these water planets were life bearing planets. Out in space, such components cannot rot, as the bacteria that cause decomposition have no oxygen. But as recently falling orange snow in Siberia has shown, when deposited in an environment where bacteria and oxygen exist, these petrochemicals soon rot! How can these petrochemicals survive the fall to Earth, when solid objects and the meteor itself is set ablaze? Certainly meteors survive the fall, and are located and considered prized objects for museums or private collectors. If the meteor is small, it may burn completely upon entry, but if large, survives. Upon impact, the meteor can explode, releasing petrochemicals encased within. This is what occurred in Peru when a large meteor from the tail of Planet X exploded on impact, releasing a soup of biological elements into the atmosphere. These did not contain life, such as bacterium or viruses, but were not the harmless components of rotting life one finds in cesspools or during soil formation. It was not merely stinky -- it was irritating. The components picked up in the past during periodic passages of Planet X through the Asteroid Belt are not simply representative of the life on a water planet, which might be assumed to be vegetative and lower life forms such worms or protozoan. This soup includes the results of decomposition, in various stages. What adheres to the tail of Planet X varies according to chemical attraction, so some material is gathered while other material is ignored. Thus, an exploding meteor does not spew forth what one might find in rotting material, as some irritating chemicals are there in excess. Can these chemicals kill? The report of the bull dropping dead should not be unexpected, as the vapors released when the superheated meteor exploded replaced the normally available oxygen in air. The bull simply suffocated. http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=110434
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Polly Tree Hugger
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Now the doctors who visited the sight of the crash are saying those who became ill are/were suffering from mass hysteria. :-) http://news.yahoo.com/s/space/20070927/sc_space/meteoritecrashbreedsmasshysteria
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