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too good to be true. reminds me of tony robbins. granted i haven't seen the video yet, i don't trust it. it's been promoted by the mainstream media big time(they were on larry king tonight for the second time), red flag. just at looking at some of the websites from the creaters of 'the secret' i can tell there's some programming going on...very sketchy individuals, very sketchy organizations..perhaps i will give it a chance, perhaps not.
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Get Boldened Hyperspace Warrior
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That's strange. I've seen their video. They don't mention anything specific like prayers, colors, or symbols. These things can cause a lot of trouble if you don't know what you are doing. But all they said mostly was visualize what you want, believe it is already yours, appreciate it, and then let that go. I don't see the harm in that because you are just using your own mind. Maybe you're just overreacting? Ps. I forgot to add that ramtha appears only once in the video. She hardly contributes to anything. But I must agree that the first time I saw her eyes I felt something was wrong with this person and that she should not have been featured. But besides her, everyone's vibes feel okay. There is one or two who feels like they have been thru a lot but they learned to turn their lives around. The rest feels like they have good intentions. Last edited on Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 09:17 am by Get Boldened |
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TheKid Guest
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Nah, ive done serious research on and i was throwing red flags left and right after just a few minutes.
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Get Boldened Hyperspace Warrior
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Hmm, I can only trust your words. But I'm okay because the Secret technique is working for me. I just can't ignore the sychronicities and timely luck coming into my life. It's still ultimately up to people to decide if something works or not for them. I think it's very unfair to say that they should consult one person and believe everything he says without trying out for themselves. Unless if this is something they can't be their own experts on, then that's when they should listen to a qualified person. Last edited on Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 09:44 am by Get Boldened |
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Richard Seeker 
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I’ve watched the secret several times and I don’t see how anyone could consider it mind control. They teach the basic truths about the law of attraction and the power of thought.
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Rebel Hyperspace Warrior 
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TheKid wrote: too good to be true. reminds me of tony robbins. granted i haven't seen the video yet, i don't trust it. it's been promoted by the mainstream media big time(they were on larry king tonight for the second time), red flag. just at looking at some of the websites from the creaters of 'the secret' i can tell there's some programming going on...very sketchy individuals, very sketchy organizations..perhaps i will give it a chance, perhaps not I saw part of that Larry King show too. Turned it off after a few minutes out of boredom and disgust. Those guests came across as snakeoil salesmen. Nothing they said was original. Most of the ideas they talked about -- visualization, using the mind to create what you want, etc. -- had been first written about 60-70 years ago by Ernest Holmes, Joseph Murphy, Claude Bristol, and other thinkers. The guests are merely stealing their ideas. Sometimes I wonder about Larry King as well. He's been married -- what? -- 7-8 times now? Notice that the guests on his television program are there mainly to plug a new book, movie, song album and so forth, never to discuss what they are really like as people and what they want to share about their lives. King and his guests are highly commercial and into product marketing. Last edited on Fri Nov 3rd, 2006 06:07 pm by Rebel |
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Lion Hyperspace Warrior
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Richard, I know some techniques used in 'mind-control' with regards to certain other groups (rich groups - not just illuminati) and i noticed it used 'once' only in 'the secret'. It was enough to put me in a huge sabotage alter, however i managed to get myself out of it and neutralise it - i've seen it many times since and my life has changed so much for the better. Also, i recommend watching 'What the Bleep do we know - quantum edition'. Its got the sequal embedded into it. The overall video I believe is not mind-control, i'm seeing things in a different light now with regards to agendas, depends who's reality/dimension you want to be involved in. I choose my own. Its amazing that your circle of friends/aquintances and anyone you know reflect your own mind-pattern. Best regards Lion
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Well...The Kid...I guess you could say it is 'mind control.' It is you taking control over your own mind. As far as the other things you said I can only reply - don't put all your eggs in one basket and don't take what one person says as the 'end to all ends.' You should trust in your own judgment and what feels right to you. If you don't feel right or want to believe in The Secret, then fine...that's your prerogative. But that doesn't mean that it is wrong for everyone.
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Astrojewels Super Moderator 
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The ‘new age’ is a name formed by the illuminati, although they are much more advanced than the average Joe with technology, the new age is merely a name given to the energy of planetary change. This all began in 1956, and has progressed slowly through the new millennium, and will continue until the year 2020. Their control methods can only last as long as the energy, therefore they must continually establish new ways to keep the population controlled. They have tried segregation, religion, racism, wars, poverty/opulence, etc. The new weapon of defense is truth and drama, yes bombard us with information and see how many of us can separate fact from fiction. The majority can not deal with it, thank you Mr. Pharmaceutical; I will take those anti-depressants to keep me isolated! Yes, the ‘secret’ is a form of mind-control, the new age weapon against your own capabilities. Sorry Kid, but you have become a victim of new age thinking, why? Kids quote - [too good to be true. reminds me of tony robbins. granted i haven't seen the video yet] How can you judge or compare something that you have not watched? The ‘secret’ provides valuable advice to universal laws and energy, as an individual, you are completely entitled to an opinion. All information is divided into truth, lies and the rest is dramatized to feed our current need for reality type events. The most important message that is given throughout this production is that ‘you control your life’ and your thoughts ‘project your experiences’ this is esoteric learning and goes back further than the time when history was first recorded. The mind-control intention of ‘the secret’ is to continue the doubt that we are victims, and “to good to be true” is the philosophy that they want us to believe, because when doubt starts to enter your thought patterns, it projects that energy, and a month later, your positive has turned to negative, but it really is as simple as thinking different. There is no one person, book, DVD or belief system that can take you from the problems in your life, because you are the sole navigator and pilot of your destiny and without a goal or destination, your purpose will be a long winding road that never ends.
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Richard Seeker
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Lion, I seen What the Bleep do we know and thought it was good. I didn’t know about that quantum edition and sequel. I’ll have to check that out sometime. I agree the The Secret video is very good too. I’ve been using their techniques and I’m seeing positive changes in my life. 
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TheKid Guest
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I saw part of that Larry King show too.
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Get Boldened Hyperspace Warrior
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There's no way they are a cult. Each and everyone have their own business. So I imagine the producers only invited authors who practice reality attraction. JZ Knight was invited over to have her own small little segment. Author of Chicken Soup for the Soul was also invited over to share his stories about how he finally became a national seller when he started practicing reality attraction. He isn't a red flag at all.
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Richard Seeker
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Kid, it sounds like you’re getting too paranoid. You can’t knock something you haven’t tried and no little about. All you have to do is read their forum and see the positive changes that are occurring in thousands of people lives. It speaks for it self. http://team.powerfulintentions.com/forum/pi/
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TheKid Guest
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I won't post any more in this particular forum.
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Richard Seeker
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Kid, Can you explain why you feel the power of thought and the law of attraction is mind control?
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Lion Hyperspace Warrior
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Richard, i found out recently that paranoia is a huge part of the ego. If someone is paranoid its the ego/left brain that is taking over. Not something that should be advocated, so 'thekid' balance your t-bar, and protect yourself if you're heading in this direction before watching a movie. You seem to be doing exactly the opposite of what 'The Secret' is trying to say, which means negative experiences will find its way into your life - you can change it, think positively and positve things will align itself to you. Regards Lion
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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Everyone lets take a breather! Kid, we respect your opinion, and you should respect ours. If Swerdlows techniques are working for you, then that is great. For those who have received positive in their life from the secret, that is also great. BE is correct in saying this is not a cult, because on the DVD they do not ask for money, or even ask for your support, they do not even advertise their own business to attract clients. To create balance you can not judge another for their belief system, as long as that belief system is creating a more balanced and positive outlook then it is not bad. You must be open minded to properly learn, judging something that you have not seen is really being ignorant. If you feel that you will be triggered by this film then do not watch it. It is completely different to Anthony Robbins work. Correct de-programming should rapidly change your life, it does not take years to feel the change, it should be only a matter of days and weeks before your mind and life feels the change. Everyone is different, this forum is not dedicated to the secret, it has a separate topic for those who are interested and wish to discuss it. We are dedicated to knowledge and that involves everything that is out there. We are here to support one another and respect each person’s opinion and provide clarity to the confusion together. Kid, Patience requires practice, if you believe this is DVD is connected to the NWO, then sometime in the future you will see that we are all wrong and you were correct, but until then your patience must wait for the universal energy to unfold. There is a need to change this thread back to positive, and if all involved is not prepared to do this with respect, then I expect Richard to delete it.
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Richard Seeker
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Kid, It’s the wrong way to go about things judging the people instead of the info. The power of thought and the law of attraction have been taught by some of the greatest people throughout history. They aren’t teaching anything new. It has been taught for thousands of years. Here is an example from Wikipedia. The Secret Teachers are members of the cast who explain Law of Attraction. Most of the Secret Teachers are in the self help or motivational speaking industry, amongst these are also two Physicists, Fred Alan Wolf and John Hagelin Law of Attraction. The following are Past Secret Teachers: 1. Hermes Trismegistus 2. W. Clement Stone 3. Plato 4. Isaac Newton 5. Martin Luther King 6. Carl Jung 7. Victor Hugo 8. Henry Ford 9. Ralph Waldo Emerson 10. Thomas Edison 11. Albert Einstein 12. Robert Collier 13. Winston Churchill 14. Andrew Carnegie 15. Joseph Campbell 16. Gautama Buddha 17. Alexander Graham Bell 18. Ludvig Van Beethoven 19. Charles Fillmore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_(film)
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Lion Hyperspace Warrior
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Awesome info there Richard, quite an 'attractive' set of links you have there! Go Gautama Buddha!!! Well not really, but i've learned meditation recently and its quite awesome being in that space of mind. The law of attraction (and other laws i've come across) are working through me and by me recently and its an awesome feeling that i'm able to connect to my OLD friends that I had over 5 years ago - they came back into MY life, not the other way round. Its awesome. Love Rodrigo
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Richard Seeker
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Hey Lion, speaking of connecting with old friends reminded me of an example of the power of thought that was in the news recently. Many people have experienced the phenomenon of receiving a telephone call from someone shortly after thinking about them -- now a scientist says he has proof of what he calls telephone telepathy.
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