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 Posted: Tue Dec 18th, 2007 08:37 pm
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  This is just Coinseedense  ;)

Josh, look at the ending of the video or watch the whole vid.  See how your symbol is their at the end.   Im not saying anything other then i just came apon this.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=20251363



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 Posted: Tue Dec 18th, 2007 11:20 pm
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Hm, I wonder what Josh thinks of the serpentine race / reptilian beings. Are they Elohim?

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 Posted: Wed Dec 19th, 2007 08:29 am
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Greetings, William
I watched twice but failed to see anything but a swastika & an inverted pentagram...

Greetings, Josh
I doubt it is purely a case of aesthetics - but I take full note of your consideration.



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 Posted: Wed Dec 19th, 2007 03:46 pm
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Xani,  There is a Swastika and Lightenbolt in Josh symbol, and a star, I just post somethings that are coincedece to me.

 



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 Posted: Thu Dec 20th, 2007 02:05 am
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Hey, thanks for the video - I really enjoyed watching it! But the symbol at the end of the video isn't the Raelian symbol - our's is a swastika inside a Star of David, not a pentagram.

That video shows a pentagram, which has connotations of 'evil' and 'satanic' origins. Also they've used the swastika to spread even more fear because most people think of the evil of the Nazis and don't realise that the swastika is a symbol of peace and harmony that was stolen by the Nazis. The makers of the video should have known this, and if they did, then it just proves they're trying to make their video entertaining by 'scaring' the people who watch.

I think that there is alot of evidence relating to the 'serpent' Gods and how they lived on the Earth with humans, but the Elohim aren't reptile looking at all...we were made in their image, so they're human looking.

The only thing I can think of is relating to the story in Genesis about how the 'serpent' deceived Adam and Eve. This, we're told by the Elohim, was a metaphor used to describe those Elohim who went against 'God' (their leader) by revealing to their primtive creation that they could become 'as gods' too, through study of science and knowledge.

Because they went against their leader, they were forced to live on the Earth in exile. This is metaphorically described in Genesis as God saying: 'Upon you belly you shall crawl and eat dust for all of your days'.

So the 'serpent'/'reptiles' are just these exiled Elohim.

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Hi,

I've answered your question in the post above....

-Josh



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I'm so sorry, Josh, but your avatar is still causing me pain.  It hits me directly in the third eye like a knife.  I have not seriously read any of your posts because of this so I don't really understand why you haven't changed it.  Please excuse me for not reading any more threads where you have posted.

 

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Josh, there are a lot of very sensitive people here; people who are sensitive to the energies of archetypes for example.  For me, your archetype gives off a very harsh, jagged, iron-like energy.  I can protect myself from it when I come to the forum and see it.  I did wonder if it was done in soft colors would it be less harsh to me but the colors are still black and white.

I know about the nazis reversing the symbol and turning it into something else but that is not the issue.  I know the original symbol was supposed to mean peace.  I don't think this symbol of yours represents peace.  It's a symbol to dominate the "as above, so below" archetype with an energy other than peace.  It does not give off a peaceful energy.

Compare your avatar to other avatars being used at this forum.  Can you discern a difference in the energy between yours and others?

 

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Josj, now severl people reported feeling the same uncomfortable sensations when your symbol shows up:

Me, MercyNow, GertruseRose, and Polly. In that order.

I seriously urge you, as an experiment, to suspend all your beliefs, open up your psychic senses, then look at your symbol. If you are psychic, you will feel pain. It's not in the eyes, but on your forehead.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 04:07 am
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Well, I didn’t want to say anything but I have to agree with everyone about the avatar. It has a strange effect on me too. I suspect it has some kind of programming purpose. It’s a trigger for something but I not exactly sure for what. I’ll have to sent a copy to Cliff and get his opinion on it.

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 Posted: Fri Dec 21st, 2007 10:02 pm
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Greetings, Josh

I find the following extremely interesting. It seems that this particular symbol has not been in use in the US & Europe again until this year - having been remodified in 1991? 

The Official Raelian Symbol gets its swastika back

After 15 years wearing a symbol without the original swastika when traveling in Europe and America, Rael, founder and leader of the Raelian Movement has decided to make the original symbol, the Star of David intertwined with a swastika, the only official symbol of the Raelian Movement worldwide. Out of respect to the Jewish people who may feel bad seeing the swastika associated to the Star of David in the original symbol, Rael agreed to remove the swastika and replace it by a swirling galaxy in Europe and America. However this courteous gesture didn’t help educate people so that they know this symbol is the symbol of the Scientists who created us, symbol that has been given to every one of their Messengers, which explains why we find it on every continent, usually associated to spiritual and peaceful groups.

The swastika has been a symbol of peace for millions of Hindus and Buddhists and for the Raelians as well as it is their symbol of infinity in time, their symbol of eternity. Today, in order to redeem themselves for past horrible discriminations done under a flag wearing this symbol, German authorities are about to discriminate again telling Hindus, Bhuddists, Raelians and all other groups who have been using this symbol for centuries for some of them, that their beliefs are not welcomed in Europe!

Banning cannot solve anything, education is the only way. European children should be told at school what a beautiful symbol the swastika is instead of referring only to the dark use made by the Nazis. The word is derived from the Sanskrit "svastika" and means "good to be". In Indo-European culture it was a mark made on people or objects to give them good luck. It has been around for more than 5000 years as a Hindu symbol in the holy texts, to mean luck, Brahma or samsara (rebirth). It is commonly seen in Indian artwork and current and ancient Hindu architecture, and in the ruins of the ancient city of Troy. If you look at a map in Japan, every Buddhist temple location is marked with a swastika like crosses are sometimes used to show churches on European maps.

Ramesh Kallidai of the Hindu Forum of Britain, whom we gladly support, said that banning the swastika was equivalent to banning the cross simply because the Ku Klux Klan had used burning crosses. How would Christians feel if they were told, landing in Tokyo, that wearing the cross is illegal because it is a torture symbol? They would certainly complain at every level and make sure their cross is respected.

Raelians of the World are now joining forces with Hindus and Buddhists in order to educate the European population about the true history of the swastika and make sure their symbol is forever respected.

More information: ProSwastika.org
Posted on Wed 17 Jan 2007
http://www.raelianews.org

And from wiki :

In February 1991, the Raëlian Church modified their symbol to remove the swastika to help in negotiations with building the "Third Temple of Israel". The official reason given was a telepathic request from extraterrestrials called Elohim to change the symbol in order to help in negotiations with Israel for the building of a Raëlian "embassy" or "third temple of Israel" to greet the anticipated coming of extraterrestrials and founders of past religions, although the country still denies their request...

Religious Movements Homepage: Raelians, University of Virginia. 11 April 2001.

For those who may be sensitive to these symbols - please do not click on the following link :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Raelian_symbols.svg

Is it possible to confirm the above information & that those are the symbols in question please, Josh? 

Many Thanks
~xan-i



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