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GertrudaRose Hyperspace Warrior
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I not only totally agree with Lion, but it is pretty much what I was trying to say in my post about How I Choose To Spend My Time. (see http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/view_topic.php?id=2897&forum_id=49&highlight=how+i+choose+to+spend). When I have tried to make this point in the past, the topic has degenerated into talk about rock music stars, avoidance of reality, and many other topics. It seems there is a real effort to avoid the point. This would of course be true if at least one member of this group is working to keep people riled up. Why doesn't anyone ever respond to my original question - is the Illuminati using conspiacy theories to keep people too busy to become an evolved being that can thwart them? I too, like Lion, have discovered that if I take the time I used to spend on conspiracy stuff and put the time into becoming a person that helps to create a better future, everyone (including you) will benefit because we will get the future we think we will. While I am spending time generating and attracting a future of love & compassion & gratitude, others are spending time generating a future of total control by the evil ones. I am NOT saying that none of the conspiracy stuff is true, quite the opposite. I believe a great deal of it. But having accepted that, THEN WHAT? Just let it happen? Just exactly how do we prevent it? What do YOU do to change that future? Talking about it only reinforces it, I think. The next step is to turn it into a different future. It can be done and many of you know how. So why can't we just do it? Where is THAT thread? 
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veronica Hyperspace Warrior 
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There could be thruth in what you saying. What should we do? Should we ignore reptilians? Isn't that what we have been doing for thousands of years? I'm not writing this ironicaly, I am just asking- if this is true,then what should we do?
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Sily Von Sily d'Wily du Eden MD 
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Okay, I'm popping back in to write down my thoughts or version of how I handle conspiracy info in my life:
Last edited on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 05:23 pm by Sily ____________________ "I heard the music, and I wrote to it. Some people beat drums. Some people strum guitars. It’s all in the music you hear." - HST |
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spiritvoyager Hyperspace Warrior
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It sounds to me like Lion is frustrated with what he perceives to be insufficiently productive efforts to uncover and expose hidden truths and feels the need to find meaning and joy in life elsewhere. I think that maybe following this new path may reflect a shift from outer to inner directedness and if so, it is a good thing. I personally, was born inner directed among people who are not. This gave me the advantage of learning to question things and not take them at face value. Discovering the dark agendas was for me, the result of pursuing inner work. That is why I agree with Tsarion's 2012 thesis. We have to deal with our personal shadows in order to create a world that reflects our conscious desires. ( See: http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum13/4048.html) We can all only do what we can and it is important to find joy and meaning in life. For me, handling what sometimes seems like a nasty storm of information has required recognizing that, and learning to live with ambiguity. (I guess I incarnated with the astrological energies that make this possible) I file much of the information that interests me away in the mental file cabinet. (I hope this is not some kind of MC program.  )I agree with Astrojewels that Lion will at some point recognize the importance of time spent focusing on the machinations of the dark forces. I do not agree that events like 911, the JFK and JFK junior murders have lost their relevance. They are merely in the realm of history and we certainly don't want to doom ourselves to repeat it (to borrow from that well worn quote). Certainlly, lots of information has emerged showing the involvement of well known currently active politicians in those events. I think we should discuss the hell out whatever new piece of information interest us. Talk it out. Give those brain cells a workout. I suppose I have faith that we will eventually expose enough truth to decide to set ourselves free. I wonder how many times humanity has repeated the same mistakes of allowing ourselves to be controlled by failing to take our freedom and take responsibility for it? Of course, the hyperspace inner work, that is the centerpiece of this forum is essential. I don't comment on it much because I am still such a newbie at it. I am immensely grateful for the ability to explore and exchange ideas with individuals who are also in pursuit of healing themselves and the planet. Thank you all for hanging out here. I have no claim to mastery of the Law of Attraction but I do feel that there is a tendency for some people to use it to escape responsibility for doing their inner work. This discussion about Lion's angst reminds me of the purging process that has to occur with many of us when we change residence. The sorting, and purging, and packing, can be a most unpleasant task, especially if time and energy are short. Last edited on Sat Mar 8th, 2008 08:17 pm by spiritvoyager |
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DreamTime Here I Be 
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GR...I hear what you are saying, but I do not know how to answer you or what it is you wish to hear. I was never into any of this stuff before I met Richard. My life was basically just one of survival and ignorance. Is it better now that I know all of this? I can't really say it is. I am still working on surviving this life, but I am not 'running' every few months. Although, that in itself, I can not say is a good thing, because now I wonder if that is what 'they' wanted - to keep me in one place. It also seemed to get a lot worse after meeting certain people who told me that I was specifically programed and had a 'ton' of implants in me. Whoa...that really threw me for a loop. Never in my wildest dreams would I have thought that kind of stuff. So that information sent me into a fury of trying to find out about my family and my past - which just kept on leading me into a blank wall. I wish I could just 'turn off' or 'forget' everything that I have learned, because I think that I am now much more leery of events and/or people, and I seem to worry about my girls and my grandchildren (and what happens to them) a lot more. I seem to ponder on the "why me? Why my bloodline?" question quite a bit more, and it frustrates me to no end that I can not get any answers about my past. "Techniques" do not seem to work for me, so that is not the way. I try to stay positive (via The Secret), and improve myself and my little corner of the world, but my mind always seems to come back to all of this stuff. (It doesn't help living with the King of Conspiracies, either.  ) So what are we supposed to do, GR? How can we keep our minds off of all this stuff and make life better for all? Or is that what 'they' want us to do - keep our minds so busy with other stuff that we have no time to even think about this stuff? I am thankful that this forum was started because I have met quite a few really good people through it whom I would never have met without it. But I do not like to constantly focus on 'doom and gloom,' as my mind does enough of that on its own. So what is the answer? Where is the happy medium? Should we all do what Lion is doing and insert ourselves back into the 'Matrix?' What exactly IS the answer? Forgive my ramblings, people. I don't usually go off like this, but my thoughts just got away from me this time. Peace!
____________________ Life's journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out shouting, "HOLY COW...WHAT A RIDE!" Check out the SALE at my store: http://www.dreamtimecreations.etsy.com |
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veronica Hyperspace Warrior
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Well, everything that is happening in this world is a result of our actions. We are all, including reptilians, illuminati famillies and others, responsible for what is going on. How could we let happen all this wars, suffering, pain, hatred? Is it that human race is forever condemned and never to evolve on a higher level? What is it that we want to achive with all these information we read? There are people whose life was never happy. For them, fighting against reptillians is maybe easier in a way, because they have nothing to lose and they believe that would bring them happines. Yet, there are people who have been living satisfactory lives and whose curiosity or something else brought them here. I am one of those. I doubt that I could go back to Matrix. How can I do that when even if don't read about it, I see what is going on in my country. I see plans within plans, microchips that they already started promoting, huge shoping centers that have been built all over the place with processed food. The other day my boss told me how great is that we have gmo food, because that would enable unlimited amount of food that would eventually feed all the poor people in Africa. How hillarious. However,I don't believe that this world really could become a "borg" society. I believe that we have pushed our society to the edge and that it is just a matter of time when everything would collapse,just like it happend many times before. If there was an experiment to test humans, to push them fighting in order to enlightem them, I think the experiment has failed. How can a mouse fight if he is in a mouse trap? Maybe if he changes the mind pattern.
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spiritvoyager Hyperspace Warrior
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Dreamtime, GR, I think we all have to do what our inner guidance directs and to focus on seeking that out if we don't know what that is. To each his own. Individuals have different inclinations and tolerances and are working on different life lessons. Some, like me, are drawn to investigate the news behind the news. Even so, I block out a lot. It is not so much out of fear (which I have spent years wrestling with, and still do sometimes). I block out that which doesn't interest me, accepting that everyone cannot know everything. It is almost magical sometimes how, when I put a question to my higher guidance and move on to something else, the information comes, usually in an unexpected manner. It's the same phenomena that Diane Lane and the American actress character describe in their conversations about "ladybugs" in the movie, Under the Tuscan Sun. I posted a book excerpt in the Law of Attraction section that addresses the relevance of awareness and ignorance to the LOA. Hope you find it helpful. http://www.hyperspacecafe.com/forum49/4095.html
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Polly Tree Hugger
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There has been some kind of energy shift for people to be saying what they are saying in this thread.
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DreamTime Here I Be
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Is that good or bad, Polly?
____________________ Life's journey is not to arrive safely at the grave in a well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out shouting, "HOLY COW...WHAT A RIDE!" Check out the SALE at my store: http://www.dreamtimecreations.etsy.com |
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veronica Hyperspace Warrior
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Yeah,I think that you are right Polly. I've noticed many people thinking like this. Even myself. It must be some kind of atack on this and similar forums. The good thing could be that if we are under some kind of atack than we do make difference just being here.
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GertrudaRose Hyperspace Warrior
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Wow, I’m impressed! Lots of really thoughtful responses, and here I was afraid to see what I had done. Veronica, from what I know, the reptilians and all of the other "powers that be" are afraid of human emotions. Especially the ones like love & gratitude. This is because good emotions relax our DNA and we become capable of actually manipulating our world. If we are filled with fear and anger and anxiety, our DNA contracts and we have no power. This is why they work so hard to keep us busy, afraid, and frazzled. For those that wondered what is to be done, I have to give you the usual “it depends on you” answer but for a reason. What needs to be done depends entirely on what YOU would like to see happen in the future. And what you want to BE in the future. If you envision a world filled with peace, do whatever you can to be peace and spread peace; if you want a world of social justice, learn what each of us can do and then share it with us so that we can become better, too. Get my drift? Personally, I am working on how to generate positive energy to counter the negative. There is plenty of negative being generated with television, hatred, greed, EMF, etc. ad nauseum, but studies are showing that it only takes 1 part of positive in 10 parts of negative to start turning things around. Sure, I keep one ear to the ground to stay abreast of what’s going on in the world, but just barely enough. The rest of the time I’m doing my best to stay on the positive side, but they really do try to suck me back in to spend hours & hours on conspiracies. Polly & Veronica, I'm lost on the shift & attack comments. Energy shifts can, of course, be good things or bad things. I really am trying to shift energy to positive feelings and a better future. But I would hardly call it an attack. I think I've gotten your comments confused somehow. Great discussion! I love it!
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veronica Hyperspace Warrior
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GetrudaRose, I really think it is healthy to question everything, including themes on this or similar forums. I agree with everything you wrote. We musn't follow anyone or anything unconditionaly. Therefore, ther is no room for being offended or angry just because someone pointed out that maybe what other follow is not right.
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Polly Tree Hugger
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Dream Time, I don't know. I was making an observation based upon what I was reading and picking up on in this thread. I don't want to polarize. There's a time for this and there's a time for that. That is how life is. Like I stated before I lose interest in all of this stuff on a regular basis and then something happens to pull me (my interest) back in for a while. I don't think that is a bad thing. I tend to feel bored easily so that's just me.
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Polly Tree Hugger
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Veronica, I am not sure I would qualify the shift in energy as an attack but it remains to be seen what comes of it or not. Things wax and wane all of the time. People's interests and focus change. I roll my eyes at least once a day because of what I know about the world. :-) Sometimes I think it is pointless for me to know what I know, other times I am glad I got it over with and am not ignorant and clueless. I am very fluid and not set in my ways of perception or thinking. My outlook changes all of the time. I am very tuned into energy shifts and how they manifest. Last edited on Sun Mar 9th, 2008 09:36 pm by Polly |
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Astrojewels Super Moderator 
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Lion, It seems you have structured a pattern of thought to all involved on this forum to evaluate how and what they think of ‘now’ and where they are in their life. You have said you will not post anymore but I know you will read these replies; curiosity is an incredibly strong sensation. Doom and gloom! The perspective of one person’s thoughts to another can be diverse, yet I totally understand how so many people reflect on ‘if’ they did not know, or ever stumbled onto the knowledge that is spoken of on this forum. Lion said ‘I have wasted my time trying to prove things like this exist’, well my friend that is your brick wall, because when anyone needs to prove their beliefs or knowledge, the foundation of that is disbelief, the need to prove belongs to the ego personality. Every path you enter in life begins with choice, and what am I reading between the lines? Well I am reading you have entered a new stage in your journey, you have met others who you feel are not ‘like minded’, you feel out of place during small talk and social status, therefore you feel if you ignore or choose to cut all of this out of your life, you may become more ‘normal’! at this very moment in your journey you are at a crossroad, and you may enter the road that says ‘normal’ however you will get half way down and realize normal people are boring, normal people are far to egotistical and logical, conversations will begin about news and you will sit there and deep inside you will be raising your eyebrows at the ignorance of ‘normal’ people. When I read all these posts, the last thing I feel is doom or gloom, I think ‘wow’ because each person that is here is a reflection of who I am, and my life is no different, I do not spend my time with only ‘truth seekers’ I share my life with a very diverse amount of people, some do not believe in the agenda, others that do, and each person in my life has a different meaning, a different emotion because that is who I am; a very complex construction of many. You are all wonderful and I feel blessed to have each and everyone one of you in my ‘law of attraction’.
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PurpleParrot Hyperspace Warrior 
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First off, I'm not sure how to say how I feel about this..I dont know Lion that well but I respect their wishes and their journey. Everyone is connected so there's may ways to be there for people!! Second off, I commend him for saying what he said. Frankly, I didn't feel I have some confidence to speak up about my feelings,thoughts about things here. I knew it too--you can consciously co create a conspiracy theory and make it happen...and you can do the opposite-uncreate it. Power of manifestation is so great and so subtle. I dont believe in the agenda anymore--I'm not going to be called specifically programmed for it either and have people worry about my programming gone wrong here cuz I've anticipated that too--because frankly I'm not and someone told me I'm not. :oP I'm not having someone say "oh you're one of those--sheeples, you sold out to the agenda!!". Just whatever-I say this with all emotions. Believe and live what you want. With all due respect for those who choose what they want to believe and live with and follow, I'm letting you know I respect myself and I'll respect your paths--I'm asserting myself here. We're(I am) all illuminati and illuminated ones. I'm not the first or the last person who said this and this is known/established. I mean the good part of it. I mean the gifted people here--all people are realizing themselves and becoming illuminated/enlightened. Its just waking up thats crazy-because we dont all know what we created in the midst of waking up!! Its in every teaching out there and its within us. Look in the Vedas, Brahma created all craziness in his sleep state...that was a very long slumber. Then just go ask your soul. Dont go tap the next soul(occupyng a body or not..human or animal or not) and say,"dude, whats true?". Cuz you know it. Just go with it. Stop self doubt. :oP Yes we have to work here on ourselves because we do create terrible things and we can create equally and immensely beautiful things and outcomes. Its free will but we live in restrictions. So we have to know whats in our conscious and energy conscious to know what to do with this all. Truth is in our reality and what we know-truth is what you make of it in your energy field. For now, its kind of good to have a good construct of morals and truths to work from and your feelings from your soul are the best guides on this. You dont want to go flying off the deep end sporadically without warning!! lol I dont want to follow anyone and I dont want people to trust me and follow me. Follow your soul! :oP I say that childishly here too. I like to have my fun, is that okay? I know what neutrality is but my mind still makes distinctions between good and bad and everything else to that extent. I say this:I choose to free myself from years of negativity,depression--I tried working on these aspects of myself all these years--my mind field works differently where I kept believing this about me and so I kept creating that. For years, and with perseverance and with difficulty,I tried doing it on my own-not the best thing to do! :oP I have to accept help from two departed beings..my friend who died two years back and my late grandfather. And its not bad. For years, I was told, interacting with departed folks or energy guides is not good..they've got an agenda. Well, my late grandfather-when he was living was an energy healer in his latter years, I dont think he wanted to hurt me like that. I ignored him all these years cuz I thought spirits have negative agendas. Finally, after I stopped believing in agendas,I accepted his help and thats fine. I accepted my late friends help, thats fine too. So I'm clear, I put it out there. I say this in anticipation for what people say..and I know better not to allow this part of me to worry about what is said. All of us are working on things..whether we're enlightened or not/clairvoyant/supernaturally gifted or not..we're here. We have to to do whats right for us. I was afraid to say what was said. peace and love
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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PP, That is your personal choice, and all of us have the free will to do as we please (well nearly), if you choose to no longer want to know this information, that is your choice and that means you have control of that choice, lion is no different, if the both of you have analyzed that this information brings negative action to your thought process then you have made the right choice to disregard it, however you and lion are not alike. This also does not mean that either of you should say farewell because there are many other topics on this forum to discuss other than the agenda.
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PurpleParrot Hyperspace Warrior
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Hi AJ, I wanted to make it clear,I'm not saying farewell to these forums and I understand I'm not the same as anyone else here. I only expressed what I've been feeling and been longing to share since last year. I understand what you're saying and I appreciate the way you view and express things. I am not sure if my post has consistency with everyone's posts on this thread. I dont mean to take the focus away from Lion's farewell. peace and love
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Astrojewels Super Moderator
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I totally understand what you are saying PP.
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William Moderator 
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When all is in balance you will know what I have not said. Peace my friend!  Come back sometime to hear a song or two! William
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