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Sirian_A Hyperspace Warrior
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I have a old, trashy deck of tarot cards. If I shuffle them, and then simply lay them out into one of the patterns, like the celtic cross, will it actually give real info?
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Andrea Hyperspace Warrior 
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Yes. I used Tarot cards for years and they do work. I never had success with the Celric cross, I made up my own way of doing it and it worked all the same. I even saw my husband before we met. I used astrology and tarot very closely though (can you do it any other way?), so that helped me see the different people. Its fun, but I dont do it anymore. Every now and then I find myself picking up a regular deck of cards and falling into the same way of reading them as I did the tarot.
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spiritvoyager Hyperspace Warrior
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Tarot works for me too. I taught myself about 20 years ago and although I have read mostly for myself, those few I have occasionally read for valued the information. I would agree with Andrea that understanding Astrology makes it a lot easier to understand and retain understanding of the meaning of the cards. The magic is not in the cards. It is in you. The cards are just props. Although I would do a mental exercise or some other action to clear out old energy if I didn't know where those cards had been. And saying a prayer before your reading to allow only truth to come through from your higher self is also a good idea. I usually resort to the celtic cross because that is what I got used to. I think the most important thing is just focusing clearly on your question and deciding on a layout before you shuffle the cards. I don't do tarot readings much anymore either, preferring to expend that energy elsewhere. But it's good to have some experience with divination. You get an idea of what is discernible and what is not. Timing, of an upcoming event for example, is very difficult if not impossible to predict. Identifying people (by their characteristics), identifying events, influences and energies, is much easier.
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Octahedron Hyperspace Warrior 
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What I know about Tarot cards, is the algebraic occult system that is the clue of it. The Major Arcana is based on the 22 archetypes in the Atlantean hall of records in the great pyramid of Gizeh, which is similar or 1-to-1 to the Hebrew alphabet. The Minor Arcana (4 x 13) is based on the 13x13x13 matrix of a soul in God-Mind where the last 13 cards are the closing way steps to go back to God-Mind (JHVH). There are close connections between Kabbalah, Tarot and Torah. Tarot stands for Ta-ro-t or ROTA (rotating wheel) the wheel of life is the fall from spirit in matter and the resurrection to spirit while rotating in the matter (regaining 100% Christ consciousness). JHVH = Jod falling in H, V is connecting J with 1st H; and 2nd H is matter/mother Earth (4 spheres of Sephir Yetzirah) or J = father-God; H = Christ/Son; V = connecting link between God and Christ = Holy Spirit 2nd H is material world (Maia, Maria, mother Mary) Also that is where "cruxification" stands for. INRI is the reverse; I.N.R.I. = J.N.R.J. (written on the Cross) or Soul-God spark is reborn from H (Mother Mary) to become God again forever = Christ The real secret story of Jezus Christ born from mother Mary is a true story, but it must be understand as an algebraic occult formula and not as a historic fact about 2000 years ago. Maybe the Christ story is Lyrean as original, where the Kabbalah is a fabricated system like a curtain to hide this story from the mass, brought by the Sirians to Atlantis. The entire Tarot system likely is a projection of (possible) life paths or different phases of the soul to be written or coded with these 78 cards.
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Mercy Now Hyperspace Warrior
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Octahedron, For whatever reason this statement you made...... "Maybe the Christ story is Lyrean as original, where the Kabbalah is a fabricated system like a curtain to hide this story from the mass, brought by the Sirians to Atlantis" ..resonates very strongly with me. Perhaps because of my experiences as a very young child? Last edited on Thu Feb 7th, 2008 05:11 pm by Mercy Now ____________________ "..When the gates are all down and the lights are all flashing,And the whistle is screaming in vain And you stay on the tracks,ignoring the facts,Well you can't blame the wreck on the train No you can't blame the wreck on the train." Terri Sh |
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Octahedron Hyperspace Warrior
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Mercy Now, to what experiences are you referring in ? Is there a connection between you and Hebrews in Rocky Mountains or Hopi indians ? Last edited on Fri Feb 8th, 2008 05:36 pm by Octahedron ____________________ God-Man-Nature = Balancing will power |
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Astrojewels Super Moderator 
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The tarot definitely hold a vibrational frequency that tunes into the Etheric energy (through the dealer to the participant), that holds all knowledge of the person, I agree with Spiritvoyager that they are props, but for the ‘dealers’ real talent, and most people would rather feed the senses with the prop than just have a reading straight from the person, and many tarot readers do not have the confidence to read without the prop. With that said, one must be extremely careful of who you allow to do a reading, it all comes down to the experience of the reader and how he/she translates the messages they are receiving, this can go very wrong. There are things that people should be aware of, this is big business and like all business, there are the sharks out there. 95% of people going to a reader have problems with romance or finance 100% of people are unsure of their future, they have two major thoughts (energy), negative -positive and the reader picks up on one of them or both, and then translates the most appropriate. No clairvoyant, psychic or tarot reader can predict ones future with 100% accuracy, but they can read the energy you are resonating on the higher level of consciousness which you are not ‘awake’ to. The talent or experience of the tarot reader will pick up your energy and bring into your conscious thoughts, therefore you feel comfortable with that message and your thought energy sends it out to the universe, and you attract that dark handsome stranger. A shark reader will do most of your reading with aid; numerology, DOB, and also by your body language, they will ask questions that require an answer that provides insight to your #1 problem, read your eyes and response/reaction to things being said, and they will follow through from there. A tarot card reader can be a very helpful guide to ones confusion with the future, but you must be able to trust the reader. There are some fantastic readers out there with exceptional talent, but you have to find the needle in a hay stack.
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Mercy Now Hyperspace Warrior
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It's a rather lengthy explanation ,Octahedron. I'll just say that as a very young child I had Sirian contact. At least they appeared as the depictions Lion and Stewart have shown. It's one of the reasons I was drawn to Stewart's info. That being said Stewart told me they were probably Lyreans disguised as Sirians. Huh???? Anyway, I live on the land of the ancestors of the Hopi(the Adena) and had Hopi contact not in the Rocky Mountains but in the Four Corners area when I lived in Utah as a young adult(19) There are other reasons your statement resonates but too lengthy to go into here.
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BobbyDigital Hyperspace Warrior 
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Do any of you guys know anything about Aleister Crowleys THOTH tarot?
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DreamTime I am here 
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Bobby Digital: I have his cards and the book, but to be honest with you, I haven't really studied it all that much. The cards are really cool looking though.
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BobbyDigital Hyperspace Warrior
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yeah i imagine it would take some studying to understand... Ive read a lot of crowleys work. Here at the hyperspace cafe we seem to put emphasis on left and right brain integration,that scientific illumination.. Crowleys work deals a lot with the tree of life and perspective of a magician.Fascinating stuff... I dont know if ill ever break out some enochian tablets and invoke astral demons but his qabalistic writings are definately worth the time to read.
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DreamTime I am here
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I have read a lot of his stuff too, although I don't think I understood a lot of it. I do think it was interesting though.
____________________ "All human beings should try to learn before they die what they are running from, and to, and why." James Thurber Check out my store: http://www.dreamtimecreations.etsy.com |
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Andrea Hyperspace Warrior
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I had a friend come over once. I left out the room for about 30 minutes. When I came back they asked me about the book '777' by Aleister Crowley. This was a book I had tried to read on many occassions, but it never CLICKED with me. I NEVER understood the book. Anyway,they said that all of the sudden, in my house, they became very scared. After looking around, their attention was drawn towards the book '777'. (Now mind you, I have a rather large library of diverse books.) They felt a very strong energy of hate from that book. When I walked through the door the first thing they asked was, "What is this book?" Sheepishly I replied "Why?" They said the book was "evil" and they could feel it and were drawn to it with fear. Ironically, I got the book from a VERY close friend that had an uncle that passed away. The uncle had a managerie of occult books, one of which was '777'. After I took the book, she said spirits (she moved into his house after his passing) were all over the place and it freaked her out. After reading about him I was totally ashamed that I had even ventured into his realm of evil.........pure evil. Crowley is pertinent to an objective inquirer, but please do not get caught up in that evil.
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webkahmik Hyperspace Warrior 
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I completely agree with Spiritvoyager... "Timing, of an upcoming event for example, is very difficult if not impossible to predict. Identifying people (by their characteristics), identifying events, influences and energies, is much easier." Precisely. I have developed my own sort of mind when I approach the deck. Certain things asked either feel right or not to ask. You sort of begin to see, with some experience, the best type of question to ask and the best way to ask it. Having said this, I still enjoy the question from complete left field, even outright "silly" questions. The Tarot DOES have a highly evolved sense of humor as well...or maybe that's just me  Patrick
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Sirian_A Hyperspace Warrior
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Here we are.. quoting Stew from an inquiry regarding tarot usage: "If read properly, these have good information. One must be able to read energies and put all the pieces together. In ancient times, this was done quite well. I only know of one person who reads Tarot as it should be." That somewhat sums up my stance on tarot also. I really don't expect anyone involved in those retarded psychic services to give a realistic tarot reading. I think you've gotta be specially connected to the energy & origins of tarot to understand just what you're doing.
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subliminal Hyperspace Warrior
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I recently have started using tarot cards, so I'm not an expert on them by any means. But so far I've found them to be a very good source of guidance. I'm excited to get into it more and expand my knowledge, thats actually part of the reason I joined these forums.
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Margo Hyperspace Warrior 
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I read palms and Tarot for corporate and private parties, Bar Mitzvahs, and individual clients. I see myself more as the "middle man" than anything else. I tell the person what I percieve (with TACT and understanding), believing it is what they need to (choose to) hear in that moment. If a client is interested, I will do an "Oversoul Reading", where I connect hyperspace concepts to Tarot as a way of offering guidance and support. For Example, after meditating on the magician card, I came up with: "I connect to ovesoul and manifest on the physical plane." So, depending on where the card comes up in the reading (and other factors), I would offer this concept. I think any method of divination is what you make it. You bring to it your intention, intuition and your own life experiences. I don't see it as anything particularly mysterious and try and keep it simple. But that's just my way. There are lots of ways. ... There's something that someone wants to understand about themselves, they were attracted to me to help them in their journey. I honor that journey..... That's about it! 
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Ghost Lyraen Lover 
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Tsarion got me hooked on Tarot a while back with his Origins and Oracles Dvds. Awesome stuff. Still, I'll leave it to you guys. I know I'll may not put the time into learning the tarot, but I love it loco. Michael Tsarion interviewed about the Divination Art of the Tarot Last edited on Fri May 16th, 2008 11:23 am by Ghost |
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