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| Posted: Fri Nov 7th, 2008 05:37 pm |
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after rereading/watching the Ritual & sexuality DVD/guide I found more about the holy grail: Mary Magdalene and the Rosslyn chapel (see also: the daVinci Code) Esp. how alters and demons are working together with sexual energy. Another one: "Colin A. Ross " = Co Lyn a Ross = a Rosslyn co(worker) near Rosslin Castle of the Sinclair family. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosslyn_Chapel Last edited on Fri Nov 7th, 2008 05:39 pm by Octahedron ____________________ God-Man-Nature = Balancing will power |
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| Posted: Tue Nov 11th, 2008 05:48 pm |
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Polly wrote: ..... Yes, I read it; He means deprogramming to be ignored with help of another person ? If, that does not exclude self-deprogramming.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 4th, 2008 07:25 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred 
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Octahedron, I'm very sorry for taking so long to respond. See, the way deprogramming was presented to us via Stewart was as a mechanical endeavor of going into the mind and dismantling the matrix bit by bit, much the way it was installed. Finding the parts and the programming attached, and merging and releasing them using hyperspace techniques is his main methodology. Ross does not work this way. He finds the cognitive errors behind the programming and doesn't really address the mechanics of the programming at all. He does not think it is important or useful to any great extent. He does have the persosn map out their system, though, so they know what they are dealing with in the internal world. When the cognitive error is properly addressed, whatever programming is attached to it dissolves. Two very different approaches. If a person can find their own cognitive errors and correct them, thereby truly dissolving the attached programming, all the more power to them, but after all of these years of my own searching I think most people need someone skilled in helping them to do this. There is nothing like opening up to another, trusted and skilled person who is empowered to bring this about which is in direct opposition to the command to never tell, never reveal the programming.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 6th, 2008 01:45 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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Polly, thanks. Yes; I see there are different approaches. The value of C. Ross is, he mentions and uncovers Satanism as a good example how the mind is been fragmented and he explains for a part how it works/can be healed. He mentions the self-awareness/cognitive ability of the client AND/OR the "coach/helper/friend". But I think this does not always covers up 100% of the problems and there are risks to be expected with this (because of bad surprise and implants, hidden hypnotic links etc). Let's say I see the cognitivity ability as an extra facility of deprogramming scope. Important things with methods from Swerdlow, Atlantean Magic, Runes etc. is the integrated information about the conspiracies in general and the high technology of modern mind-control, genetic manipulated food and the hyperspace symbols which are really the core of cosmic causal powers. The Swerdlows also are open to the high spiritual way of Mysticsm (Oversoul, Christ energies, cosmic energies). Mysticism is not to be underestimated in deprogramming awareness. With this forum I would add a third powerful method: Sharing experiences, developing tools with others and adding knowledge about mind-control and deprogramming esp. with the awareness of hyperspace theory and mind-control technology.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 6th, 2008 02:17 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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Octahedron, Good thoughts from you. Having many different approaches available is important. Ross' most recent book is: "Spirit Power: The Foundation of a New Science," which I have not read. From Amazon: Editorial Reviews Product Description Spirit Power Drawings lays the foundation of a new science. According to Colin A. Ross, M.D. this new science is a marriage of science, religion and psychiatry. It is an ancient way of knowing that has been lost by modern industrial man. Industrial man has "lost touch" with nature, the senses have been closed up and two profound dissociations or disconnections have emerged. According to his philosophy, spirit is a general property of matter. He calls this energy, Spirit Power. His new science is based on a form of knowledge that is deeper, more ancient, more sensual, intuitive, and more rooted in the natural world. The experiential foundation of the new science is communicated through text and drawings. The drawings communicate a vision of human life and the natural world that Dr. Ross has explored in poetry, fiction and essays. Out of this vision comes an understanding of mind, body, the natural world, and the human spirit. About the Author Colin Ross was born in Sarnia, Ontario, Canada on July 14, 1950. He received his M.D. degree from the University of Alberta in 1981 and completed his psychiatry training at the University of Manitoba in 1985. From 1985 to 1991 he was a full-time academic psychiatrist at St. Boniface Hospital in Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada. In 1991 he moved to Dallas, where he has been running a hospital-based Trauma Program ever since. http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Power-Drawings-Foundation-Science/dp/0970452586/ref=pd_bbs_sr_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1228576024&sr=8-4
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| Posted: Wed Dec 10th, 2008 05:36 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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Thank you, It seems Colin Ross has detected the energies and connections of cosmic universal spectra; and thus able to find hyperspace, oversoul and angelic energies. Interesting is what he would find with them in relation to his experiences in practice..
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| Posted: Fri Dec 12th, 2008 01:17 am |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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I may have to read this latest book, Octahedron. I recently found that two people I have spoken to in the mental health field have read his books. To backtrack a bit, and I am reiterating this for myself, if a person has a memory of some traumatic event and that memory is causing distress and dysfunction, and if the negative energy of it is resolved and dissolved via addressing it in a useful way, even if the memory cannot be proven or is not actually factually true, that memory is experienced as true in the subconscious and can be treated as a true memory. Last edited on Fri Dec 12th, 2008 01:20 am by Polly ____________________ "Oh where, oh where has my Underdog gone?" "Oh dear, he must have gone off to the Kuiper's Belt!" |
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| Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:09 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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this topic-subject is related to the one about "deprogramming is a trap ?" I do remember Brice Taylor in case about her spiritual way without deprogramming; Maybe Colin Ross can get new ideas from the Medieval mystics or so.
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| Posted: Fri May 29th, 2009 11:46 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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Trying to undo programming will set-off all sorts of traps. It's the way it is designed. I really don't know what Colin is doing right now. Teaching, writing? I don't know of any sure-fire measurement or method to ascertain if someone is fully deprogrammed. A lot of time and effort has gone into making it permanent. Different people have used different methods to undo the programming with varying degrees of success. I don't like to discount any of them or throw the baby out with the bathwater. Didn't Cathy O'Brien (or Mark Philips) recently state she (Cathy) is fully deprogrammed? How does she know that for sure? The subconscious mind is vast and we, humans, can so easily deceive ourselves. I know a young mainstream therapist in training, working in a mainstream facility, who told me she knew military people who said they had been programmed (she found it hard to believe) and was shocked when I told her non-military people have been programmed as well. Thanks for rejuvenating this thread, Octahedron. I put a lot of time into my study of Colin's material last year. Funny, earlier today and before reading your post, I moved the books I have of his to another room. They were piled on the floor with other books and I had not looked at them in some time.
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| Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 05:36 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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Actually, it is possible to remove all programming, demonic attachments and everything associated with them almost instataneously but then that state has be held and there can be no falling back.
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| Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 06:16 pm |
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Polly wrote: Actually, it is possible to remove all programming, demonic attachments and everything associated with them almost instataneously but then that state has be held and there can be no falling back. Is this a conclusion from Colin Ross ? Or an inner conviction ?
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| Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 06:28 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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It's something I know, Octahedron. It's happened to me twice. Once in 2001 and again in 2004. I wasn't able to "hold it" for very long and came under severe attack both times. I fell back.
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| Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 08:46 pm |
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Octahedron Advanced Member
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Polly, good to know; it is possible and clear to tell this. How did you do this in 2001 & 2004 when you reached this status ? With deprogramming methods of Swerdy ? BTW: Colin Ross wrote about spirit power as new science, however there has been written about it since the start of the universe.
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| Posted: Sat May 30th, 2009 11:22 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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The first time a very gifted clairvoyant did a remote healing on me. My frequency shot up like an arrow and everything dark fell away. I cannot describe the relief and joy I felt. This was before I really understood programming or knew for sure I was programmed. All I knew was I was terribly afflicted and did not understand why. The second time I performed a coup on my matrix with the person you mentioned as back-up and some golden, winged lions as escorts and dove down to my core. I couldn't maintain my higher vibration either time. That doesn't mean I have given up though. One day I will do it and maintain it. It makes sense that Ross came to the realization about spirit power. There is no other doorstep to arrive at.
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| Posted: Mon Jun 1st, 2009 10:57 am |
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Polly wrote: The first time a very gifted clairvoyant did a remote healing on me. My frequency shot up like an arrow and everything dark fell away. I cannot describe the relief and joy I felt. This was before I really understood programming or knew for sure I was programmed. All I knew was I was terribly afflicted and did not understand why. I think both ways were steps in your learning process, in the right direction. i.e The 1st step (2001) was with using your own oversoul energies where the clairvoyant just has too convince you or gave your selfconfidence to make this step. You can only heal yourself. The 2nd (2004) was the method of playing God from your own soul to break programmings in your subconsciousness. The hyperspace action. My opinion is, because your look further in getting answers of more deeper spiritual things, I think you look in the right direction again. the model of Soul-Oversoul-God is a good one , but I think it is not complete; there is something more; I mean providence; it's almost philosophy. The level of God's plan to souls. I must stop with talking more about this to give opportunity to help yourself, with patience. 2 hints with this: Start i.e. with a) Ralph Waldo Trine (spiritual writings), Martin Kojc (i.e. book: Manual of life) Then b) Master Eckart; medieval mystic Take it easy, be optimistic.
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| Posted: Thu Jun 11th, 2009 06:00 pm |
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Octahedron wrote: .. You can only heal yourself. I think I have to add: .... if you allow yourself to be healed ... ; and that is a free decision, in the right spiritual way, that is according Providence (thus always allowed by God). where Providence is of a higher level than Destiny. Just some spiritual thoughts.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 05:28 pm |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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Thanks for the spiritual thoughts, Octahedron. The deeper, the better. There is an inner situation which still plagues me and has defied healing so far. It has to do with, at some point, feeling abandoned by God and feeling I have to fend for myself without the proper resources. This is a child aspect who has yet to be convinced otherwise. This child aspect still lives in hell.
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| Posted: Fri Jun 12th, 2009 09:54 pm |
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Polly, thank you. I'm convinced hyperspace methods are a defensive strategy against programming; spiritual knowledge and insights is the next step. There is much more to found out about spirituality. To give an idea. i.e. watch at Renaissance art, a painting from Michelangelo or Boticelli; what makes you deciding it is beautiful or ugly ? answer: the feeling for beauty and listening to harmony; If it is a very beautiful painting and almost everybody can appreciate it, than that personal feeling is symbolic for a spark of the (original) God connection with the soul (of everybody). Last edited on Fri Jun 12th, 2009 10:00 pm by Octahedron ____________________ God-Man-Nature = Balancing will power |
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| Posted: Sat Jun 13th, 2009 01:18 am |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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I think we are awed when we are witness to a pure energy stream made manifest in the physical no matter what form it takes, such as Michaelangelo's art.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 13th, 2009 03:06 am |
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Polly Sweet Polly Purebred
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Octahedron! Oh my goodness! I just read that Dr. Colin Ross will be speaking at the MK ULTRA Mind Control Conference in Boston in February. What a shock for me to see his name listed!! I spent so much time studying his work and had so many things I would have liked to say to him while reading his books, most of which I have now forgotten. Hehe. Maybe I should go.
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